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JohnDorian37 Thu May 05, 2011 08:22pm

lightning
 
was working 1-man today, big roll of thunder comes in so i call time and tell the coaches we gotta wait half an hour.

they think this is ridiculous and that rule is only for seeing lightning. i tell them it applies for hearing lightning, too, and it's gonna be a half hour. one pulls out the "i'm an ump too, and i never heard of that."

was i wrong?

UmpJM Thu May 05, 2011 08:32pm

JohnD.,

Well I've never actually "heard lightning" myself, but I do kind of like the phrase and plan to use it myself in the future.

I believe you were absolutely correct and did what I would do at any level I work.

JM

Coach Dykhoff Thu May 05, 2011 08:33pm

The "normal" human ear can hear thunder from up to 10.5 nautical miles away from the lightning. The national weather services gives out thunder storm warnings at 10 nautical miles. The problem is that lightning can strike further away from a storm than that. In this situation (IMO, and no documentation to back it up) but if you feel it is unsafe than call it. Better be safe than sorry. Personally, if it was an open area that I could see atleast 5 miles that is when I would call it.

I have a question to add onto this. Wouldn't this be covered in a League rule?

JJ Thu May 05, 2011 08:33pm

Let's see....where does thunder come from? Oh, yeah....LIGHTENING! If you hear thunder, there's lightening. Close.
Good call, ump!

JJ

MrUmpire Thu May 05, 2011 08:38pm

NOAA refers to thunder as "the sound lightning makes." So, I'd guess I've heard lightning many times.

Good call. If you can hear it, it's too close to continue play.

rcaverly Thu May 05, 2011 08:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37 (Post 756398)
one pulls out the "i'm an ump too..."

Me: Not today.

JohnDorian37 Thu May 05, 2011 08:56pm

should have mentioned: FED, freshmen game.

jdmara Thu May 05, 2011 09:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37 (Post 756398)
was working 1-man today, big roll of thunder comes in so i call time and tell the coaches we gotta wait half an hour.

they think this is ridiculous and that rule is only for seeing lightning. i tell them it applies for hearing lightning, too, and it's gonna be a half hour. one pulls out the "i'm an ump too, and i never heard of that."

was i wrong?

It's your butt on the line. You are liable if someone gets injured because of your negligence (ie not calling the game when you hear thunder or see lightning). You made the right call.

-Josh

BretMan Thu May 05, 2011 09:24pm

FED guidelines specifically say that they apply when either lightning is seen or thunder is heard.

umpjim Thu May 05, 2011 09:28pm

Right on. See p66 FED rule book.

DG Fri May 06, 2011 01:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 756400)
Well I've never actually "heard lightning" myself, but I do kind of like the phrase and plan to use it myself in the future.

Of course you have. Thunder is the sound made by lightning.


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