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rails42 Wed Mar 09, 2011 05:06pm

nfhs test
 
I need some help with #32 Bottom of seventh ining two outs tying run at third.B4 hits pop fly to F6.Thinking ball will be caught,B4 hurls his bat over the dugout.F6 drops the ball while runner from third touches home and B4 obtains first base.U1 will rule
A.B4 is ejected for his action,run does not count game over
B.B4 is ejected.The offense will,after time is called,replace him with legal substitute.The run scores,the game is now tied.
C.B4 is declared out.the game is over

UmpJM Wed Mar 09, 2011 05:13pm

rails,

What's the penalty specified for 3-3-1m?

JM

ManInBlue Wed Mar 09, 2011 08:10pm

So...what did you find out?

Don't think too much and answer EXACTLY what the book says. I like JM's responses - he told you, but he didn't tell you.

dash_riprock Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:29pm

Check the case Book too. JM's rule cite will take you to the right place.

rails42 Thu Mar 10, 2011 09:34am

nfhs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 738226)
rails,

What's the penalty specified for 3-3-1m?

JM

Thank you, I read the rule and really he should be ejected and declared out
So really the answer should be A & C but there is only one answer

mbyron Thu Mar 10, 2011 09:38am

I heard just last night that the NFHS test this year is split between true false and NCAA-style multiple choice, where more than one answer may be selected.

Rich Thu Mar 10, 2011 09:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 738535)
I heard just last night that the NFHS test this year is split between true false and NCAA-style multiple choice, where more than one answer may be selected.

The NFHS multiple choice questions are single answer. I've already taken Part I (all WI officials take Part I and the 22% who are L5 and Master take Part II, both open-book and via the mail).

bob jenkins Thu Mar 10, 2011 09:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rails42 (Post 738531)
Thank you, I read the rule and really he should be ejected and declared out
So really the answer should be A & C but there is only one answer

1) WHY IS he declared out?

2) If A and C are the "same" answer, and only one answer can be correct, then A and C are wrong. (Test taking skills -- of course, that assumes a competent test-maker)

rails42 Thu Mar 10, 2011 09:53am

Because in rule3-3 m the penalty says if on offense the player is ejected and declared out

dash_riprock Thu Mar 10, 2011 09:57am

Take a closer look. You are citing the penalty for 3-3-1(n), See 3.3.1 U in the Case Book.

bob jenkins Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rails42 (Post 738546)
Because in rule3-3 m the penalty says if on offense the player is ejected and declared out

The first sentence applies to all subsections (m) through (q).

The next two sentences apply to (n) only.

The last sentence applies to (q) only.

Rich Ives Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rails42 (Post 738531)
Thank you, I read the rule and really he should be ejected and declared out
So really the answer should be A & C but there is only one answer

Is one of the answers missing one of the penalties?


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