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verticalStripes Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:33am

Last pitch in the 2010 NLCS
 
I don't want to necessary argue balls and strikes, but I am curious to what people have on that Howard called third strike. I thought the pitch was there, but I wasn't really paying to close attention to the umpire's strike zone throughout the game.

Welpe Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:38am

Bases loaded, two outs, full count and the entire season on the line: swing the bat.

grunewar Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:00pm

Concur!
 
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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 697796)
Bases loaded, two outs, full count and the entire season on the line: swing the bat.

When I coached I used to tell my players - in these circumstance, regardless of what YOU think, if it's close you've got to swing. Don't get punched out with the bat on your shoulder! JMO

MrUmpire Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:40pm

As replays and pitchFX showed, at the knee and over the plate. What's the problem?

BSUmp16 Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:59pm

One of the first things an umpire is told after learning the "Big 6" mechanics is the importance of T I M I N G. Here are 2 examples: one of of bad timing and one of good timing.

First, the bad. Here's the call where Buster Posie reaches first on an error

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | NLCS Gm 6: Huff scores on a Polanco throwing error - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

In contrast, here's Hallion's call on Howard's called 3d strike to end the game (and it WAS a strike):

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?co...ic_id=14871772

T I M I N G is everything

IRISHMAFIA Sun Oct 24, 2010 03:46pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 697802)
As replays and pitchFX showed, at the knee and over the plate. What's the problem?


The perception that the catcher did not think it was a strike or he wouldn't have pulled it up and a good portion of the game, the umpire called the pitches pulled up by the catcher a ball.

Not saying it wasn't a strike, looked good to me. Then again, IMO, Howard is not the person I would want in the box with the game on the line.

JRutledge Sun Oct 24, 2010 05:00pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 697796)
Bases loaded, two outs, full count and the entire season on the line: swing the bat.

Yep!!!

Peace

Steven Tyler Sun Oct 24, 2010 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 697798)
When I coached I used to tell my players - in these circumstance, regardless of what YOU think, if it's close you've got to swing. Don't get punched out with the bat on your shoulder! JMO


Yeah but unlike Ryan Howard, they weren't trying to hit off Fidel Castro either with the season on the line.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Oct 24, 2010 06:38pm

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 697820)
Yeah but unlike Ryan Howard, they weren't trying to hit off Fidel Castro either with the season on the line.

Nah, Wilson does a much better job on the beard with the Grecian Formula than Fidel :D

DG Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 697796)
Bases loaded, two outs, full count and the entire season on the line: swing the bat.

It simply amazes me how many ML batters will take a called 3rd strike. In this situation it only amazes me even more.

Great pitch! I can't say it was a great call, because it was what it should be.

Rich Ives Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:32pm

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 697850)
It simply amazes me how many ML batters will take a called 3rd strike. .

Don't understand hitting eh? :D

DG Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:33pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 697854)
Don't understand hitting eh? :D

Taking called 3rd strikes in critical situations ain't hitting.

nopachunts Tue Oct 26, 2010 08:29am

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 698008)
Taking called 3rd strikes in critical situations ain't hitting.

I was taught, have taught, and call: On something and 2, if it's close, you better be swinging.

Rich Ives Tue Oct 26, 2010 09:46am

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 698008)
Taking called 3rd strikes in critical situations ain't hitting.

Then I guess neither is flailing away at a breaking ball out of the zone when you were expecting a fast ball.

The pitcher won the battle. Give credit where it's due.

johnnyg08 Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:19pm

Pitcher threw a great pitch and the umpire rewarded him by calling it properly and correctly.


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