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kylejt Thu Oct 21, 2010 09:12am

Ah, but would this be considered a composite bat, since it's comprised of more that one piece?

johnnyg08 Fri Oct 22, 2010 08:29am

High school kids aren't strong enough to do much with a broken bat...the cost issue is what the bat companies bring up to scare people away from wood.

When I check bats before the game I'm umpiring, there are entire bat racks of $300 bats...you can buy a lot of wood bats for $3000.

Rich Ives Fri Oct 22, 2010 08:58am

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Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 697434)
Ah, but would this be considered a composite bat, since it's comprised of more that one piece?

"Composite" is about the material.

kylejt Fri Oct 22, 2010 09:31am

Every metal bat is a composite of one sort or another. Aluminum, magnesium, manganese, silicon, and zinc. Does HS define what a composite is?

SAump Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:13am

Heavy Metal Outch?
 
Like the recent rise in questionable MLB umpiring calls, over-exposure plays an important role in the whole decision making process. I am sure that something more than rising home runs, fatalities, and run deficits led to the ban on high-performance metal bats. Mark me down as not supporting the new NCAA dead bat era. With less pop in the bat, a player is less likely to swing at a pitch. If a player is less likely to swing at a pitch, more pitches will be thrown. If more pitches are thrown, the game will last as long or longer than previous years.

jkumpire Sun Oct 24, 2010 09:05pm

Sorry, No sell
 
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Originally Posted by SAump (Post 697768)
Like the recent rise in questionable MLB umpiring calls, over-exposure plays an important role in the whole decision making process. I am sure that something more than rising home runs, fatalities, and run deficits led to the ban on high-performance metal bats. Mark me down as not supporting the new NCAA dead bat era. With less pop in the bat, a player is less likely to swing at a pitch. If a player is less likely to swing at a pitch, more pitches will be thrown. If more pitches are thrown, the game will last as long or longer than previous years.

What you say makes sense only if the pitching and defense gets worse. If you have a good F1 throwing strikes you will get more balls in play, and more outs.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Oct 24, 2010 09:39pm

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Originally Posted by SAump (Post 697768)
. With less pop in the bat, a player is less likely to swing at a pitch. If a player is less likely to swing at a pitch, more pitches will be thrown.

Not if you call them strikes. ;)

umpjong Mon Oct 25, 2010 01:29am

Not sure what all the hoop la is all about. The bat standards are attempting to make the metal bat respond like a wood bat. If someone thinks they have become less effective than the wood then by all means use wood... Surely you do not want the batter to have a substantial edge on the pitchers do you? Its actually nice to think that the possibility of low scoring games and pitching inside may return to amateur baseball.

Count me as being in favor of the new bat standards and also pardon my pause as I call my accountant to instruct him to buy some more metal bat company stock.. :D

Umpmazza Thu Oct 28, 2010 08:37am

I umpired a fall game at Tulane, and they hit 2 homeruns to opposite field using the new bats.. they are a little bit softer, but it doesn't make a difference.. still have to hit a round ball with a round bat square..LOL

David B Sat Oct 30, 2010 09:57am

maybe a good thing
 
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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 697331)
Wait until these "wonder boys" get a contract and walk onto a professional field. The biggest adjustment these players have to make is using a wood bat!

And maybe a return to "small ball" when players know how to actually bunt, hit to the opposite field etc., all which has become a lost art in todays modern bat world.

Thanks
David

JJ Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:00am

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Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 698588)
I umpired a fall game at Tulane, and they hit 2 homeruns to opposite field using the new bats.. they are a little bit softer, but it doesn't make a difference.. still have to hit a round ball with a round bat square..LOL

Do the new bats have a different sound to them?

JJ

johnnyg08 Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:23am

Something has to improve the college game...the high scoring, slow-pitch softball style of baseball...is not for me that's for sure.

jkumpire Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:36am

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Originally Posted by JJ (Post 698935)
Do the new bats have a different sound to them?

JJ

Yes. though I can't tell what it's like, but it is different.

MrUmpire Sat Oct 30, 2010 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by jkumpire (Post 698941)
Yes. though I can't tell what it's like, but it is different.

No more "ping"...more like a "thunk".

johnnyg08 Sat Oct 30, 2010 07:57pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 698971)
No more "ping"...more like a "thunk".

Music to my ears


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