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frozenrope22 Wed Sep 01, 2010 09:10am

Player from dugout
 
Saw this last night. 16-18yr Rec Ball high school rules. Runners on first and third. Batter hits it to deep outfield. Runners are advancing. Ball is being relayed in from outfield. When I look to home plate to see if there might be a play I notice 2 catchers. Not only are the previous base runners giving the up or slide signal but also the catcher from the batting team in full gear including helmet(no he was not the on deck batter). He apparently ran out of the dugout to cheer his teammates. There was no play at the plate and everyone ran back to the dugout. Homeplate umpire didn't notice the extra catcher as he was watching for the play which never happened.

Is there a rule against this or is this just a "don't do that again"?

I can envision lots of arguing if the fielding team had thrown to the wrong catcher but that didn't happen.

UmpJM Wed Sep 01, 2010 09:24am

frozenrope,

Yes, there is a rule against it. 3-3-1a.

Penalty is a team warning.

JM

Rich Ives Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:27am

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Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 690886)
frozenrope,

Yes, there is a rule against it. 3-3-1a.

Penalty is a team warning.

JM

If you're using that rule set.

UmpJM Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 690890)
If you're using that rule set.

Rich,

Since he specified "...high school rules...", I assumed he meant high school rules.

JM

mbyron Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 690891)
Rich,

Since he specified "...high school rules...", I assumed he meant high school rules.

JM

Why assume when you could have inferred? :D

Rich Ives Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 690891)
Rich,

Since he specified "...high school rules...", I assumed he meant high school rules.

JM

But many of the lurkers don't know that there are multiple rule sets - they'll see an answer and assume it applies everywhere. Is it somehow a crime to remind them that rule applies to that reule set?

MrUmpire Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 690952)
But many of the lurkers don't know that there are multiple rule sets - they'll see an answer and assume it applies everywhere. Is it somehow a crime to remind them that rule applies to that reule set?

Only a coach can do the weasel dance this well.

rpumpire Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:19am

If you're trying to avoid confusing people, how about specifying FED rules when appropriate, not high school rules? In my state, as well as a few others, high school rules means OBR with a few modifications.

frozenrope22 Thu Sep 02, 2010 08:29pm

OK, this is ridiculous. I asked a straight forward question and got a straight forward answer. Thanks JM.

The rest of you enjoy arguing over nothing way too much.

briancurtin Thu Sep 02, 2010 08:56pm

Which rule book should we be arguing about? You didn't specify...


*shaking fist* The people have a right to know!

frozenrope22 Thu Sep 02, 2010 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 691029)
Which rule book should we be arguing about? You didn't specify...

Now that is someone with a sense of humor I can appreciate!

Rich Ives Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 690954)
Only a coach can do the weasel dance this well.

It's not a weasel - I try to educate and in doing so it's necessary to indicate that there are different rule sets. The BRD exists because there are so many differences.

Or do you prefer having coaches in the dark so you can riducule their lack of knowledge?

MrUmpire Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 691033)
It's not a weasel - I try to educate and in doing so it's necessary to indicate that there are different rule sets. The BRD exists because there are so many differences.

Or do you prefer having coaches in the dark so you can riducule their lack of knowledge?

I prefer answering the question as it is asked.

I also prefer to giggle when coach/umpires screw up reading and try to cover their a$$ by appearing concerned for "lurkers".

DG Fri Sep 03, 2010 08:17pm

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Originally Posted by frozenrope22 (Post 691028)
OK, this is ridiculous. I asked a straight forward question and got a straight forward answer. Thanks JM.

The rest of you enjoy arguing over nothing way too much.

You catching on quick. Welcome!


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