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youngblue3 Mon Jul 12, 2010 03:19pm

balk situation
 
Is it a balk when a RHP steps directly toward third whenever a runner on second is breaking for third? My idea is that he is steping toward an unoccupied base but to make a play and even though the runner will likely be put out this should not be a balk. Whats the correct call?

Thanks

UmpJM Mon Jul 12, 2010 03:31pm

youngblue,

If the R2 is breaking for 3B, it is perfectly legal for a pitcher to throw a pick-off to 3B from the rubber for the purpose of making a play on the R3.

JM

johnnyg08 Mon Jul 12, 2010 03:41pm

except from the windup in FED ball

ozzy6900 Mon Jul 12, 2010 07:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 685172)
youngblue,

If the R2 is breaking for 3B, it is perfectly legal for a pitcher to throw a pick-off to 3B from the rubber for the purpose of making a play on the R3.

JM

F1 better make sure that R2 is really going and not faking or it's a balk.

UmpJM Mon Jul 12, 2010 07:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 685200)
F1 better make sure that R2 is really going and not faking or it's a balk.

ozzy,

Right. Unless he's playing under FED rules, in which case he's fine if the runner is only feinting an advance.

JM

johnnyg08 Mon Jul 12, 2010 07:17pm

JM, are you saying that under OBR F1 can throw to 3B if R2 is bluffing to 3B?

UmpJM Mon Jul 12, 2010 07:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 685202)
JM, are you saying that under OBR F1 can throw to 3B if R2 is bluffing to 3B?

johnny,

No. That's not what I said at all.

Why do you ask?

JM

youngblue3 Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:14pm

Thanks everybody. A vet told me otherwise but I didnt think he was right because it was an attempt to make a play. Just making sure. Thanks again!

bob jenkins Tue Jul 13, 2010 08:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngblue3 (Post 685232)
Thanks everybody. A vet told me otherwise but I didnt think he was right because it was an attempt to make a play. Just making sure. Thanks again!

For some reason, the first part of the rule ("shall not throw to an unoccupied base") is easy to remember; the second part ("except for the purpose of making a play") seems to be missed by many.

mbyron Tue Jul 13, 2010 08:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 685249)
For some reason, the first part of the rule ("shall not throw to an unoccupied base") is easy to remember; the second part ("except for the purpose of making a play") seems to be missed by many.

That's always the problem with exceptions to any rule. It doesn't happen much, but watch what happens when R2 standing on 2B gets hit with an infield fly. ;)


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