No Catch in Tigers/Twins Game

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

It really looked pretty involuntary to me. He was running and trying to stop and it sure looked more like a bobble than any kind of voluntary action on his part. Maybe slowed down like the replay was it could be construed that way, but in real time it would be tough to call it a voluntary release.

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Make up you mind. In the OP you said:

The fielder (Span) was not transferring the ball, he was flipping it out of his glove

non-sequitur

For anyone who has played the game, flipping the ball to your bare hand is definitely an on purpose transfer attempt and thus a voluntary release.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Make up you mind. In the OP you said:

The fielder (Span) was not transferring the ball, he was flipping it out of his glove

non-sequitur

For anyone who has played the game, flipping the ball to your bare hand is definitely an on purpose transfer attempt and thus a voluntary release.

First, the OP was written rather hastily, immediately after viewing the replay a couple of times. The "flip" I referred to was actually Span trying to get control of the ball as it was squirting out of his glove very involuntarily. I should have thought my words out more carefully knowing a cunning linguist and renown wordsmith like you would catch it.

Second, I have played and/or umpired this game my entire childhood and adult life, in thousands and thousands of games, and I pretty well know a voluntary release when I see one, and that was not one.