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Old Tue Apr 27, 2010, 10:17pm
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a first- need ruling on this one

I can't find it but I'm not done looking.

JV game (where I get to refresh all the obscure rules). 0 out. 0-1 count. R1 breaks for 2B when F1 comes set. F2 seeing the runner break stands up and just as F1 is delivering F2 pulls his mask off. He catches the pitch despite a bunt attempt and luckily does not get his face broken. He did not interfere with the batter, just managed to catch the pitch in his glove while holding his mask in his throwing hand. Any rules violated?

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Old Tue Apr 27, 2010, 10:43pm
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If he didn't reach across the plate to catch it and as you said, didn't interfere...nope.. just another kid that shouldn't be behind the plate.
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Old Wed Apr 28, 2010, 12:00am
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If he caught the pitch with his mask, it is a detached equipment violation, base runners awarded one base from time of infraction.
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Old Wed Apr 28, 2010, 12:44am
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If he caught the pitch with his mask, it is a detached equipment violation, base runners awarded one base from time of infraction.
2 in FED, but that's not what happened in the OP. Don't feel bad; I read it the same way the first time due to the construction of the second-to-last sentence.
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Old Wed Apr 28, 2010, 06:04am
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2 in FED, but that's not what happened in the OP. Don't feel bad; I read it the same way the first time due to the construction of the second-to-last sentence.
Agree with the grammar point. Had to look up the rule difference -- thanks for that! 8-3-3c is the reference.
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Old Wed Apr 28, 2010, 11:55am
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2 in FED, but that's not what happened in the OP. Don't feel bad; I read it the same way the first time due to the construction of the second-to-last sentence.
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Old Wed Apr 28, 2010, 01:23pm
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I can't find it but I'm not done looking.

JV game (where I get to refresh all the obscure rules). 0 out. 0-1 count. R1 breaks for 2B when F1 comes set. F2 seeing the runner break stands up and just as F1 is delivering F2 pulls his mask off. He catches the pitch despite a bunt attempt and luckily does not get his face broken. He did not interfere with the batter, just managed to catch the pitch in his glove while holding his mask in his throwing hand. Any rules violated?
I don't see any violation but it could have been lights out for F2. Pretty stupid move on his part, if you ask me.

The trick here is:
  • Watch for F2 reaching out over the plate. Don't allow this for a moment.
  • Watch for F2 touching the batter in any way.
  • Watch for for a catch with detached equipment.
  • And if F2 is doing everything right, you have to make sure that the batter doesn't interfere with F2's throw to 2nd.
It's a lot to watch for but you have no choice.
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Old Wed Apr 28, 2010, 07:10pm
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Do not have FED in my area but if this happened in a game in Canada, there would be grounds for ejection or at least a warning.
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... Any rules violated?
Survival of the fittest/natural selection/karma... .

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Doh!! Thanks Matt
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  • Watch for for a catch with detached equipment.
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