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grunewar Tue Apr 27, 2010 07:34pm

You're Outa Here!
 
How many have been "bumped" before? By the catcher? Out of the ordinary?

Did you get support from the league? Your Association? Just curious.

Rays' Navarro suspended 2 games for contact with ump - USATODAY.com

briancurtin Wed Apr 28, 2010 05:44pm

Here is the video: Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | TOR@TB: Navarro is ejected for arguing strike zone - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

I've only had one bump situation (well, more than a bump, post-game) and the assignor had my back and the league did as well.

johnnyg08 Wed Apr 28, 2010 05:53pm

Nope. Hope to never have one. Our group had one a few years ago. Guy got suspended for three games.

Skarecrow Wed Apr 28, 2010 06:09pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 675051)
How many have been "bumped" before? By the catcher? Out of the ordinary?

Did you get support from the league? Your Association? Just curious.

Rays' Navarro suspended 2 games for contact with ump - USATODAY.com

I had a catcher purposely duck a fast ball that hit me in the solar plexus and knocked me to the ground....he sat out the last four games of the season....association backed all the way....

johnnyg08 Wed Apr 28, 2010 06:29pm

cheap shot. I suspect a couple of guys who tried that...but they threw the pitches in the dirt. F2 blocks like a mad man for the entire game until they got ticked off at me and magically a ball gets through and drills me in the shin guards but hit the dirt first.

JR12 Wed Apr 28, 2010 06:48pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 675122)
Here is the video: Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | TOR@TB: Navarro is ejected for arguing strike zone - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

I've only had one bump situation (well, more than a bump, post-game) and the assignor had my back and the league did as well.

Not to mention looked like a good call. The pitch was low. Even without the stupid pitch trac thing.

yawetag Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:45am

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 675128)
cheap shot. I suspect a couple of guys who tried that...but they threw the pitches in the dirt. F2 blocks like a mad man for the entire game until they got ticked off at me and magically a ball gets through and drills me in the shin guards but hit the dirt first.

Gasp! The shin guards?! The nerve of them!

Seriously, what kind of message is that?

UMP25 Thu Apr 29, 2010 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 675122)
Here is the video: Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | TOR@TB: Navarro is ejected for arguing strike zone - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

I've only had one bump situation (well, more than a bump, post-game) and the assignor had my back and the league did as well.

When did yours occur, Brian?

My bump occurred this year when North Central College's head coach John Fitzgerald bumped me 4 or 5 times after I ejected him for telling me, "You're phucking horrible!" I had called out his BR for missing first on a double. (Never mind the fact that the BR stumbled very visibly approaching first base and ended up running right over the base.) Unbelievably, after I ejected him for swearing at me, he incredulously asks, "For what?!? What did I do to get ejected?"

Our Bob Jenkins here was my partner on this game, BTW.

briancurtin Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:32am

Mine was probably 4 years ago, working a three-man game with Luke and another guy for an adult league in Aurora. Some fans supposedly heard me tell the wife of a coach to f* off or something ridiculous like that...from the third base dugout area while I was standing at the 45 foot line (no one else heard this, obviously). After the game we all left the through the other team's dugout, but that coach came charging around the field and pushed me and grabbed me by the shirt shirt. Luckily quite a few people were around to intervene. He ended up getting bounced out of the league pretty quick I think.

tjones1 Fri Apr 30, 2010 09:58pm

Not in baseball... once in basketball.

johnnyg08 Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:10pm

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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 675175)
Gasp! The shin guards?! The nerve of them!

Seriously, what kind of message is that?

I agree...but if they're going to do it, I'll take that option versus one straight to the mask, chest, collar bone, nuts, etc.

yawetag Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:58pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 675388)
I agree...but if they're going to do it, I'll take that option versus one straight to the mask, chest, collar bone, nuts, etc.

Certainly. They can throw at my shin guards all day.

johnnyg08 Sat May 01, 2010 09:50am

SPAMMER be gone.

With_Two_Flakes Sat May 01, 2010 01:17pm

Idiot spammer at that.

The removal company is in the UK and he is so clueless he doesnt realise this is a US officiating website. I am embarassed.......

MSPChris Tue May 11, 2010 12:45pm

haha i'm gonna bump this thread...

Here's my question for umpires that have been bumped -- where were the police? If I were ever bumped at a game (not accidentally touched, but bumped) I'd be on the phone instantly and I'd be pressing charges.

In many states bumping an official like what we're describing here is a felony.

Forget about what the league is going to do....

Matt Tue May 11, 2010 07:18pm

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Originally Posted by MSPChris (Post 676411)
haha i'm gonna bump this thread...

Here's my question for umpires that have been bumped -- where were the police? If I were ever bumped at a game (not accidentally touched, but bumped) I'd be on the phone instantly and I'd be pressing charges.

In many states bumping an official like what we're describing here is a felony.

Forget about what the league is going to do....

That's going to be a tall order in your neck of the woods.

UMP25 Tue May 11, 2010 11:23pm

I agree. I also believe it is overreacting. I was bumped by a head coach 4 or 5 times in one game on April 2nd. I didn't get overly upset. I informed the coach it would cost him a suspension, wrote the requisite reports, submitted them to the proper people, and was done with it.

Kevin Finnerty Tue May 11, 2010 11:50pm

I got repeatedly bumped and beaked by a batter I called out on strikes in a MSBL game. He turned on me and went at it Billy Martin style. I didn't back up and I didn't swear of scream anything I regret. But when his saliva went into my mouth during one of his screams, I flung him away from me, and his late-arriving teammates collared him before he could charge back at me. I told the teammates that if they didn't carry him off the property in one minute, the game's over.

The catcher and pitcher and the player's manager all called the league president before I did. Their accounts matched mine. The president told me that as of this minute, the guy is thrown out of the league.

So it went the way it's supposed to go. If it didn't, I would have walked.

MSPChris Wed May 12, 2010 02:42pm

I will agree that calling the police might be an overreaction, but I gotta tell you there are plenty of cases where calling the cops is warranted.

Most of my games are for teenage kids. Some coach that decides he's going to put his hands on me during the course of a game (in anger) has no business dealing with kids, period.

Sometimes the league might do something sometimes they won't -- the truth is a lot of the time it depends on who the adult is and what the situation was. I've read plenty of threads where umpires get blackballed because the coach is a prick, but he's a well-placed prick.

The police don't care who the adult is, or what the situation is. What matters to the police is that Adult A assaulted Adult B.

It's too bad but sometimes calling the police is going to be the only way that you the umpire cna make sure the situation goes (as Kevin said) "the way it's supposed to go."

Matt Wed May 12, 2010 08:23pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 676493)
I agree. I also believe it is overreacting. I was bumped by a head coach 4 or 5 times in one game on April 2nd. I didn't get overly upset. I informed the coach it would cost him a suspension, wrote the requisite reports, submitted them to the proper people, and was done with it.

Don't tell him it will be a suspension. That's not your job nor your call (even if it is supposed to be automatic.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSPChris (Post 676577)
I will agree that calling the police might be an overreaction, but I gotta tell you there are plenty of cases where calling the cops is warranted.

Most of my games are for teenage kids. Some coach that decides he's going to put his hands on me during the course of a game (in anger) has no business dealing with kids, period.

Sometimes the league might do something sometimes they won't -- the truth is a lot of the time it depends on who the adult is and what the situation was. I've read plenty of threads where umpires get blackballed because the coach is a prick, but he's a well-placed prick.

The police don't care who the adult is, or what the situation is. What matters to the police is that Adult A assaulted Adult B.

If you're talking about a participant putting hands on you, that's a whole different ball of wax (legally.)

Bumping, OTOH, is not going to result in assault charges in MN, unless he's threatening you with harm, does it in such a manner that it is an attempt to cause harm, or someone is bored. There might be a citation for disorderly conduct out of it. I will bet a game fee on nothing more than that.

UMP25 Wed May 12, 2010 09:03pm

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 676610)
Don't tell him it will be a suspension. That's not your job nor your call (even if it is supposed to be automatic.)

Yes it is. I did exactly what I was instructed to do. I told him he was to be suspended; I filled out the reports and sent them to the proper persons, including the NCAA people, one of whom is required to get all umpire reports and suspension reports when a coach commits an infraction that results in a mandatory suspension.

BTW, you might want to look at NCAA Rule 5-16.

Matt Wed May 12, 2010 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 676619)
Yes it is. I did exactly what I was instructed to do. I told him he was to be suspended; I filled out the reports and sent them to the proper persons, including the NCAA people, one of whom is required to get all umpire reports and suspension reports when a coach commits an infraction that results in a mandatory suspension.

BTW, you might want to look at NCAA Rule 5-16.

BTW, you might want to specify your ruleset.

UMP25 Wed May 12, 2010 09:08pm

It was rather obvious in my OP.

Matt Wed May 12, 2010 09:12pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25 (Post 676623)
It was rather obvious in my OP.

I wasn't looking at your OP; given the difference in detail, it appeared to be a different incident--in fact, I didn't even notice it was you that posted the first one.


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