No coaches on field?
Head coach argues with PU and gets restricted to dugout. Before returning to dugout he continues to argue and gets tossed. Next inning when asst. coaches go to take positions at first and third. PU won't allow Assts to coach bases. They are told because they are restricted to dugout they can't coach bases but can allow players to coach the bases. Explaination was this is a new NFHS rule. Is this correct? This was a 13U travel team playing NFHS rules.
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Yes this is a new NF rule.
Peace |
This is a misapplication of the rule. Just because the HC is restricted and/or ejected for his misdeeds, that does not mean the AC is restricted. The new rule says that if an assistant coach leaves his position to argue a call, he may be restricted to the bench or ejected. If that happens then the head coach is restricted to the bench.
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Head coaches are restricted when an assistant is dumped. Assistants are NOT restricted when a head coach is dumped. The rule is in place in an attempt to make head coaches responsible for the behavior of their assistants. |
Yeah, putting kids on coaching duties when unrestricted adult(s) are in the dugout is a bad idea.
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FED 3-3-1g-6
any member of the coaching staff who was not the head coach (or designee) in 3-2-4 leaves the vicinity of the dugout or coaching box dispute a judgment call by an umpire, FED 3-3-1g-6 Penalty For violation of g (6), both the head coach and the offending coach shall be restricted to the dugout for the remainder of the game, or if the offense is judged severe enough, the umpire may eject the offender and restrict or eject the head coach. Any coach restricted to the bench shall ejected for further misconduct. A coach may leave the bench/dugout to attend to a player who becomes ill or injured. |
So was I right or wrong?
Peace |
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FED 3-3-1g-6 any member of the coaching staff who was not the head coach (or designee) in 3-2-4 leaves the vicinity of the dugout or coaching box dispute a judgment call by an umpire, When assistant is tossed or benched the HC is benched. When the HC is tossed or benched, the assistant is "promoted." |
Just because an AC is dumped does not automatically restrict the HC to the bench. The AC must leave the dugout or his position in the coaches box to argue a call and then be restricted/ejected. If the AC is restricted/ejected while he is in the dugout or still in the box, there is no penalty for the HC.
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Unfortunately for me I did not go to a live rules meeting and this was a question I had about this rule from the very beginning. Peace |
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Jeff,
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Thanks. John |
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I do think the rule is unclear on some levels, but it is clear to me the NF wanted this penalty to be severe so the HC could prevent assistants from getting out of hand. Peace |
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no, i know what you're getting at...but if all are restricted, can the team put a player in the 3B coaching box?...sounds like a gong show to me.
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