Catcher picks up ball with mask
ML rules
A) Runner on 1B, batter bunts and 3B trying to throw him out barehanded touches ball, but cannot pick it up. Runners now on 1B and 2B, whereupon before any time is called, C picks up ball with mask. B) Same as A, but 3B does not touch ball |
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I just saw this play on the espn highlights. Did they give the batter 3 bases?
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I saw Mike Scioscia do this about 25 years ago. He was in the big leagues and he didn't know that rule. He still talks about it today.
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which game was that ?
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Moore victim of obscure rule | Mariners.com: News
Edit: turns out the video doesn't show the play, but there is a brief explanation of the situation in the article. Not much new info, though. |
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I think there was a play last year where the catcher stopped the ball from rolling with his mask. However, I'm fairly sure it wasn't a batted ball. I think it was a pitch in the dirt.
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JM |
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In the Mariners play, the umpires got together and determined that the ball was no longer a batted ball after the third baseman's touch, as he had changed impetus driving the ball. Hence, the ruling that it was a thrown ball (two base award on detached equipment) rather than a batted ball (three base award on detached equipment). Interesting ruling and they get paid big bucks for this. Notice that the MLB did not make any kind of a clarification on this, so it implies they go the ruling right, despite forum members saying they got it wrong. I tend to agree with the umpires on the field, but I am a Mariners fan suffering a minor disaster of an open to the season, and may not be objective.
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Skarecrow,
Your earlier post was incoherent. Nobody could tell what you were saying. Your most recent post is only marginally less so. I have no idea what point you are trying to make. JM |
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You're saying that if a catcher shovels a loose pitch with his mask, you're giving one base only, because it started from a pitch? I very respectfully think that is the wrong application of the rule... |
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Not really - what if he scooped up a bunt with his mask? |
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1) Batted ball: put in play by the bat 2) Thrown ball: thrown by a fielder or a 3) Pitched ball: Thrown by the pitcher. It remains a pitched ball till one of the other two happen or the catcher fields it in his glove or bare hand. It your sitch 1 and 2 didn't happen and the catcher didn't field it with his glove or bare hand so it was still a pitched ball when he controled it with his mask (detached equipment). |
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