The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Baseball (https://forum.officiating.com/baseball/)
-   -   both teams lose track of outs (https://forum.officiating.com/baseball/56880-both-teams-lose-track-outs.html)

Steelers Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:19pm

both teams lose track of outs
 
Hey guys
Had a situation late this summer. Not sure I handled it correctly, never had this happen before. HS BB game late in game. During a long 7 or 8 run inning with a couple pitching changes. Bases loaded no outs batter hits into 6-4-3 dp. BOTH teams believe it is 3 outs, both teams vacate the field, I look at the HPU gesture "I've only got 2" and he agrees. Score keepers realize that there are only 2 outs. Now here come the managers...... Defense wants R2 out for vacating, Offense says R2 rounded 3rd and scored and wants the run. So we put R2 on 3rd and put the defense back on field. Do you guys agree or is there a rule that would govern such a situation? I have had one or the other forget outs but never everyone on both teams

Steelers

TxUmp Tue Feb 02, 2010 04:48pm

Both teams guilty
 
The situation immediately after the double play is likely:

R3 has crossed and hopefully touched home.

R2 is in third.

There are 2 outs.

When both teams leave the field, R2 (now on third) probably vacates his base and enters the dugout to get his glove to go on defense. Third out - one run (R3) scores. End of inning.

Rich Ives Tue Feb 02, 2010 05:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steelers (Post 657874)
Hey guys
Had a situation late this summer. Not sure I handled it correctly, never had this happen before. HS BB game late in game. During a long 7 or 8 run inning with a couple pitching changes. Bases loaded no outs batter hits into 6-4-3 dp. BOTH teams believe it is 3 outs, both teams vacate the field, I look at the HPU gesture "I've only got 2" and he agrees. Score keepers realize that there are only 2 outs. Now here come the managers...... Defense wants R2 out for vacating, Offense says R2 rounded 3rd and scored and wants the run. So we put R2 on 3rd and put the defense back on field. Do you guys agree or is there a rule that would govern such a situation? I have had one or the other forget outs but never everyone on both teams

Steelers

Offense says R2 rounded 3rd and scored and wants the run.

Well - did he?

ozzy6900 Tue Feb 02, 2010 07:33pm

I agree with Rich, here. You were the or one of the umpires, so were you paying attention to the runners? What did you see?

johnnyg08 Tue Feb 02, 2010 08:07pm

Kind of seems like you'd have abandonment or a run plus abandonment. What did you see?

dash_riprock Tue Feb 02, 2010 08:19pm

I would have outs that carry over to the next inning. With these two teams, you just might get away with it.

SAump Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:04am

miami skunk in the IF
 
I don't see abandonment by R2 unless he ventures into DBT or touches his glove and head towards his defensive position. I see the defense leave the field. I would score R3 and allow R2 to return to base. I'm not bailing out the defense w/ abandonment when practically their whole team left the field. I agree with your decision.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:04am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1