MrUmpire,

I believe the FED also requires that the vendor alledges that the balls conform to FED specs regarding weight, circumference, and COR specifications.

JM

Imo
 

It's simple to me.

If the game is close between two good teams, make sure the game balls are good.

If the game is not close between a good team and a bad team, make sure the bad team plays defense using the soft, spongy game balls. If the good team is on defense, let them use the harder better game balls.

Anything to get the game over ASAP, so there is more tim for root beers after the contest! :cool:

True that, but the NCBA balls are Starr's top-of-the-line model, and they are junk after two innings. None of the teams I work for use them for non-league play. I can't imagine how poor they are down the line.

Steve, I think he meant, "Not every Diamond, Wilson and Rawlings ball I have seen is the best quality." That's true, too, particularly with Wilson in my experience.

My last post on baseballs, as this has gotten boring. I don't work any games where the Rawlings Major League Baseballs are used. I do work some games where very good Rawlings baseballs are used.

Most high schools around here use Diamond D1 or Wilson 1010 and they are very good.

I can see where I was a bit unclear...my point is that FED does not eforce their requirements and, the last I knew, did not conduct random tests of any of the various manufacturer's products. They are primarily interested in the revenue generated by selling the rights to their logo and are minimally, if at all, interested in the quality of items that bear that logo.

And that makes them just like most American businesses and corporations.

[I know, the truth again; I'm sorry in advance]

MrUmpire,

No, you were perfectly clear. My response was intended to support your assertion.

A friend of mine who is "in the business" informed me that FED does absolutely nothing to verify that the baseballs conform to spec. They do, however, require that the vendor states that the balls conform to the specs when they apply for permission to use the "mark".

JM

1) You're not sorry.

2) It's your view of the truth. We get it. Now drop it.

It's not a big deal, Bob. And my views, as you know, are reality based, and not fantasy based.

I don't know what they are based on.

I do know the kind of response they (and any similar posts expressing views from either side of the political, etc. spectrum) gather. I do know that they (ditto) don't advance the art of umpiring. That's why they (ditto) are routinely deleted.

We can see that in the posts I've deleted since you posted this.

We're all adults. So it's always a little silly when we can't have adult exchanges.

And opening the minds and eyes of umpires should advance the art of umpiring, should it not?

I suppose I should focus on things that are possible.

I didn't realize that you too were a (ditto) head.:rolleyes:

Back to the topic at hand
 

I did some research and I came up with three manufactorer's that made FED legal baseballs. The three are Rawlings, Wilson and Diamond.

Rawlings model numbers.

R100HSNF
R100-NFHS
RNFHS

Wilson model numbers.

A1001B SST
A1010B PROSET
A1010B HS1-SST

Diamond model numbers

D1-NFHS-NY
D1-PRO-NFHS
D1-NFHS
DOL-1NFHS


These models are the only ones with the NFHS logo:

D1-NFHS-NY
D1-PRO-NFHS
D1-NFHS

The D1-NFHS-NY is the Official New York State High Baseball Coaches Association Baseball. This appears to be the only legal baseball that the State of New York uses. This could be why the protest in New York State was upheld.

Same in Michigan.

Well, since I know that I just did some games with Pro Nine NFHS stamped balls, and made a post stating that I did, I did a little research of my own and came up with these:

http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/...--10096755.jpg

http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/...--10097024.jpg

Nice balls, Steve.

...you know it's the offseason when we're having an 8 page discussion about the leagality of baseballs

Thanks. I wanted to sound off like I've got a pair.;)

....I've put mine away for the season..... :rolleyes:

JJ

They must be brand spanking new because I can still see the stiches.

Hope your recovering nicely.

And the FED went to all the trouble of putting their stamp of approval on them too!

I think that the NFHS should be alerted to the fact that manufacturers like Worth, Baden, Pro 9 and even some others like Baseball Express are fraudulently putting the NFHS stamp on their baseballs, when only three companies--according to extensive research--are authorized to do so.

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I just looked in my box of baseballs (those that I "forgot" to leave on the plate at the end of the game) and found a Trump MG-BH-T baseball with the NFHS stamp on it.

Oh yeah, Trump!

See what you can come up with when you do some real research?

I checked in my trunk and I found a Toys R Us baseball, that was FED rated, imagine that!!!!

I bet it's far better than the Trump ball.

Would you be so kind as to point out where I said that other manufactorers are fraudulently putting the NFHS stamp on their baseballs?

Also, explain to me where I used the word extensive and that only three companies are authorized to do so.

I think the problem arises because you were to quick to jump on the SDS bandwagon.

The problem also arises because of your reputation and past behavior on this (and other) boards.

In all fairness, Tyler did not say that the three manufacturers were the exclusive providers of FED-stamped balls, nor did he say that his research was extensive. Had his research been extensive, he would have found other manufacturers as well.

I think that the NFHS should be alerted to the fact that manufacturers like Worth, Baden, Pro 9 and even some others like Baseball Express are [reader beware of facetious comment] fraudulently putting the NFHS stamp on their baseballs, when only three companies--according to [reader beware of hyperbole] extensive research--are authorized to do so.

"I did some research and I came up with three manufactorer's that made FED legal baseballs. The three are Rawlings, Wilson and Diamond."

That's exactly what you wrote. Three manufactorer's. With an apostrophe.

So, maybe look at a second or third website before you come out with your findings and it won't look like your final word.

.....Aaarrrrgh!
Enuff.