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SanDiegoSteve Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:38am

Greymule and Kevin F:

This is your official reminder.

:D

Oh, be sure to return the favor!

yawetag Sun Nov 08, 2009 07:14am

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 634690)
It doesn't give the appearance of anything if it isn't brought up, and it wouldn't be brought up if our society had its priorities in order and had a more realistic interpretation of true freedom and a contemporary outlook on human sexuality. It's only anyone's business if it comes out and there's a conflict. And if no one knows, there's no conflict. And no one should know, or even ask.

To me, it's not the sex that's the issue. The issue is the appearance of favoritism, and it stems from fraternization, not sex.

For example, if a judge was caught dating or spending more time with a lawyer, questions will come out on whether he favored that lawyer in court proceedings. Whether they were in bed together doesn't matter much at all.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 634690)
We're laughingstocks all around the modern world. Cases like Clinton's, Letterman's and even Mark Sanford's make us look like fools when it causes a national uproar.

Sanford's case was more about lying and not doing his job.

Kevin Finnerty Sun Nov 08, 2009 09:12am

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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 635026)
To me, it's not the sex that's the issue. The issue is the appearance of favoritism, and it stems from fraternization, not sex.

For example, if a judge was caught dating or spending more time with a lawyer, questions will come out on whether he favored that lawyer in court proceedings. Whether they were in bed together doesn't matter much at all.

I also stated very plainly that her being caught doing it should result in her being dismissed. And I make that statement because a personal relationship between a player and an umpire shows impropriety. I even compared it to a judge having a relationship with a prosecutor.
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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 635026)
Sanford's case was more about lying and not doing his job.

Sanford's case caused a dual uproar, and his abandoning his post for five days was one of them. I was referring to the business of his having a mistress and all of the lunacy and hypocrisy that it caused. It may not have been more important than his leaving his post, but it certainly was one of the prominent aspects, and the reaction to it was laughable.

Umpmazza Sun Nov 08, 2009 09:05pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 635029)
I also stated very plainly that her being caught doing it should result in her being dismissed. And I make that statement because a personal relationship between a player and an umpire shows impropriety. I even compared it to a judge having a relationship with a prosecutor.
Sanford's case caused a dual uproar, and his abandoning his post for five days was one of them. I was referring to the business of his having a mistress and all of the lunacy and hypocrisy that it caused. It may not have been more important than his leaving his post, but it certainly was one of the prominent aspects, and the reaction to it was laughable.

I want to know should the player also get in trouble for sleeping with the umpire? If she should get fired, what should happen to the player..

dash_riprock Sun Nov 08, 2009 09:38pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 635029)
Sanford's case caused a dual uproar, and his abandoning his post for five days was one of them. I was referring to the business of his having a mistress and all of the lunacy and hypocrisy that it caused. It may not have been more important than his leaving his post, but it certainly was one of the prominent aspects, and the reaction to it was laughable.

His wife didn't think it was funny.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Nov 08, 2009 09:41pm

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Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 635083)
I want to know should the player also get in trouble for sleeping with the umpire? If she should get fired, what should happen to the player..

I think the player should be forced to sleep with Mark Sanford, Bill Clinton and David Letterman.

Kevin Finnerty Sun Nov 08, 2009 09:44pm

I meant its being blown up bigger than any other aspect and made a colossal spectacle was what was laughable. It's the personal lives of human beings that are being toyed with, including children's.

turnit Sun Nov 08, 2009 09:55pm

Don't know and don't care what she did off the field. Bottom line, she was not a good umpire and was kept longer than many who didn't miss the things she did on the field.

Kevin Finnerty Mon Nov 09, 2009 09:24am

So what you're saying is she sucked two different ways.

That makes more sense.

turnit Mon Nov 09, 2009 05:38pm

Nope. I'm saying she wasn't AAA material. That's all.

SAump Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:32pm

Five pages of sheesh!
 
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Originally Posted by turnit (Post 635312)
Nope. I'm saying she wasn't AAA material. That's all.

Great comment, ENuf said.
Any more doubters out there?

Kevin Finnerty Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:16am

Have there been doubters?


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