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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 10:46am
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This is the worst call I have ever seen in a high-profile game for sure. Again, that's my opinion based on what is soon to become 45 years of following major league baseball. The worst.

What makes it inexcusable? Laziness and disinterest in a job that pays $400,000 per year with three months off and he can't put out. That's what makes it inexcusable.

It's pathetic. These games are important. And this profession is too dignified to have it be represented this way at what is supposed to be its highest level.
Kevin we can ALL bit** and moan but IMO, the REAL CULPRIT is MLB themselves.

We have had some threads in the past about the minor league umpiring system. We talked about the strike etc.

UNTIL MLB INVESTS time and money in the minor league system we will not get the BEST of the BEST.

You cannot tell me there isn't some qulaity talent in the minor league system waiting for their chance. The problem for the vast majority is they NEVER get that chance and simply receive a letter from MLB telling them their services are no longer required.

In past threads about this issue, I believe the salaries of a minor league umpire were posted. It was PEANUTS. You can make more money being a manager at Wal-Mart then you can if you are UIC of Triple A.

You are correct what is needed is better umpiring which means MLB will have to take an INTEREST. Until then we will continue to see the Cuzzi's . McLelonds etc. of the world who continue to advance, get high profile playoff games regardless of performance.


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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 11:24am
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Kevin we can ALL bit** and moan but IMO, the REAL CULPRIT is MLB themselves.

We have had some threads in the past about the minor league umpiring system. We talked about the strike etc.

UNTIL MLB INVESTS time and money in the minor league system we will not get the BEST of the BEST.

You cannot tell me there isn't some qulaity talent in the minor league system waiting for their chance. The problem for the vast majority is they NEVER get that chance and simply receive a letter from MLB telling them their services are no longer required.

In past threads about this issue, I believe the salaries of a minor league umpire were posted. It was PEANUTS. You can make more money being a manager at Wal-Mart then you can if you are UIC of Triple A.

You are correct what is needed is better umpiring which means MLB will have to take an INTEREST. Until then we will continue to see the Cuzzi's . McLelonds etc. of the world who continue to advance, get high profile playoff games regardless of performance.


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Pete, you are 100 percent correct. And you can change a couple of words and you have described the problem with the training and production of players as well. MLB does a laughably small part of what it should to better the game from which they profit so obscenely.
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 10:40pm
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Kevin we can ALL bit** and moan but IMO, the REAL CULPRIT is MLB themselves.
It's a simple equation of supply and demand. If there are still a lot folks who are willing to start the journey at Harry's or Jim's, do it for little money, with only a sliver of hope of it paying off, why change things? MLB umpires don't make that much money, considering what they have to go through to get there, and all the time away from home they spend.

Bottom line: You're already drawing from a shallow talent pool, given all you need to go through and endure to get to the Show. Plus, once you do get there, there's no incentive to maintain your skills, as it's nearly impossible to get fired.
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