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Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 18, 2009 09:08am

Okay, right at-bat, but with a system that's bunk. The low spot is just wrong. Mike Lowell's 6'4''.

I'm just not going to watch games anymore. What's the point?

GerryB Fri Sep 18, 2009 09:49am

I don't want machines calling strikes, but this info is out there being used to explain or condemn. The strike zone shown is the "normalized strike zone", that is, a kind of a statistical average of all the batter's zones, IIUC. That does not mean each batter is judged based on this zone, it means that all the zones are plotted on a single plot for simplicity and clarity. The pitches are plotted relative to that.

So what do I take away from the graph? I don't know #5's exact location, but it was pretty close to the strike zone. For me Kellogg got it right. But I didn't see it live, and as I think we all agree we're the ones who know the "true" zone.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:11am

Gotcha.

I do think that the actual pitch was more low than off the plate, and Lowell's being so tall and his being a stand-up hitter both make that a low pitch. As far as judging the corner properly ... what Ozzy said.

My first reaction to Kellogg's taking so much crap for so long (15 long seconds) was possibly due to his thinking he reached for the strike.

NFump Fri Sep 18, 2009 02:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 626065)
Not everyone's knees are 18" from the ground. the hollow of my knee is 19" from the ground. This technology is flawed.


Yeah, well mine is 20" :p

SanDiegoSteve Fri Sep 18, 2009 03:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFump (Post 626167)
Yeah, well mine is 20" :p

Braggart!:rolleyes:

nopachunts Fri Sep 18, 2009 03:36pm

Braggart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 626171)
Braggart!:rolleyes:

Steve,

Are you saying you are vertically challenged? By the look of the high water pants the other day, I would not have thought it. LOL

SanDiegoSteve Fri Sep 18, 2009 05:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by nopachunts (Post 626174)
Steve,

Are you saying you are vertically challenged? By the look of the high water pants the other day, I would not have thought it. LOL

Like I said, those were from 1990, before I had access to plate pants. Plate pants were just gaining popularity. These were Sears dress pants. If you had seen me about a month later, you would have seen properly fitted Honig's Plate Pants.


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