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jwwashburn Sun Sep 06, 2009 04:02pm

Joe West says change that glove.
 
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I had a guy in a HS game a few years ago that had a very shiny reflective emblem on the outside of it and it almost blinded me. A little black tape and we were ok.

I do not think I have ever seen this in the MLB before.

RKBUmp Sun Sep 06, 2009 05:28pm

Couple of years ago Randy Jonson was pitching for the Diamondbacks and had a black padded band on the back strap of his glove. He had been pitching with it all season and had it on the whole first half of the game against I believe it was the Dodgers. All of a sudden it became an issue with the Dodgers manager and they made him remove the padded strap.

ozzy6900 Mon Sep 07, 2009 04:13pm

Sounds to me like Joe did his job.
OBR 1.15
(a) The pitcher’s glove may not, exclusive of piping, be white, gray, nor, in the judgment of an umpire, distracting in any manner.

Kevin Finnerty Mon Sep 07, 2009 04:21pm

Unit's had the sweatband on the glove since the early days. Here are three shots from that era:


http://www.nofenders.net/uploaded_im...ers-710173.jpg

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009...riners_400.jpg

Here's one from 1992:
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009...iners1_600.jpg

Kevin Finnerty Mon Sep 07, 2009 04:30pm

In NONE of those cases could it possibly be considered a distraction [for LDUB's sake: by any reasonable person]. It's bush league gamesmanship to get an umpire to have that tossed.

MrUmpire Mon Sep 07, 2009 04:51pm

A.
Quote:

Originally Posted by RKBUmp
All of a sudden it became an issue with the Dodgers manager and they made him remove the padded strap.


B.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624298)
It's bush league gamesmanship to get an umpire to have that tossed.

I would say B follows A.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Sep 07, 2009 05:02pm

It must have been before Torre took over. I think he has a bit more class than that.

LDUB Mon Sep 07, 2009 08:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624298)
In NONE of those cases could it possibly be considered a distraction [for LDUB's sake: by any reasonable person]. It's bush league gamesmanship to get an umpire to have that tossed.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

jwwashburn Mon Sep 07, 2009 08:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624296)
Unit's had the sweatband on the glove since the early days. Here are three shots from that era:


http://www.nofenders.net/uploaded_im...ers-710173.jpg

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009...riners_400.jpg

Here's one from 1992:
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009...iners1_600.jpg

Forget the glove...make this guy get a haircut!

SethPDX Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 624320)
Forget the glove...make this guy get a haircut!

Ahh, the turquoise jersey. I thought it was...interesting...even back then. Now that Griffey has come back it's a "throwback" and is being sold in the Mariners team stores again.

Kevin Finnerty Tue Sep 08, 2009 03:40pm

I have that Griffey turquoise one with the gold MLB 125th anniversary logo patch. You remember that glorious anniversary. It was the year that Bud Selig and Donald Fehr came together to cancel the World Series for the first time since John McGraw refused to let the Giants play what would have been the second World Series in 1904.

SethPDX Tue Sep 08, 2009 03:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624478)
I have that Griffey turquoise one with the gold MLB 125th anniversary logo patch. You remember that glorious anniversary. It was the year that Bud Selig and Donald Fehr came together to cancel the World Series for the first time since John McGraw refused to let the Giants play what would have been the second World Series in 1904.

Yes, I do. The Mariners were actually in a pennant race when that season ended.

Kevin Finnerty Tue Sep 08, 2009 04:00pm

And when Sosa and McGwire were juicing their way to a record in 1998, an account should have read, "... chasing Griffey's four-year-old record of 64 [or so], and Matt Williams' N.L. record of 61 [or so]."

This Bud's for you:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...uttSelig-1.jpg

Kevin Finnerty Tue Sep 08, 2009 04:04pm

I like this shot, too:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...Budpicksit.jpg

You know how important it is to have camera presence.

jwwashburn Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 624487)
And when Sosa and McGwire were juicing their way to a record in 1998, an account should have read, "... chasing Griffey's four-year-old record of 64 [or so], and Matt Williams' N.L. record of 61 [or so]."

This Bud's for you:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...uttSelig-1.jpg

Yeah, you're right! Bud Selig should have given the crybaby Union what they wanted even though he had no authority to do so.

Kevin Finnerty Wed Sep 09, 2009 09:06am

Sorry, but if [fill in name] were Commissioner of Baseball, there would have never been a strike-related cancellation of the World Series. If Fay Vincent were still commissioner back then, there would have been a clean-up of the steroid mess before it ever truly was a mess.

Bud Selig is an owner. In the real world, you don't have an owner in charge of keeping owners in line. The commissioner's office was set up with something else in mind: the good of the game.

SAump Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:22pm

That's not true
 
Not everyone would have said anything back then. Its a lot different now that the science GUYS plead no contest to fixing cocktails which did not show up in urine test. This can be traced back to 1960s Olympic East German women. Yeah people noticed the ACNE, but no one did anything about the extra doses of test-toss-terr-ones that Helga gained "pumping" iron.

Back in the 1980s, some top prospect (not Daryl Strawberry) from FL was in the SI mag and it explicitly stated the kid was juicing on Andro, creatin and other GNC supplements (wasn't Mark McGuire either). A lot of kids playing all kinds of HS sports were juiced in the 80's. None of it is sold in GNC today.

Recently some 16 year old kid with a 96mph rising fastball made the news about leaving high school for JC 2 years early. I guess he's a natural. I think his dad may have been "juiced" the night of pro-creation. Yeah that explains it {satire}.

More OBTW, the naturals with that kind of talent may be about 1 in 300 million 18 year old kids. I still believe 2 of these creatures can throw a 100+ mph, wet seam, rough raised leather {friction}cut groove, rising fastball with a pronounced flat spot. If that ain't true, why does MLB toss 'em out after every 6 tosses? Explain the physics! :D :D :D

Kevin Finnerty Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:05am

As a point of fact, Commissioner Fay Vincent issued an announcement that was posted in every major league clubhouse reminding major league players that any violation of the controlled substances act was forbidden, including anabolic steroids and other performance enhancing substances. In other words, steroids have been against the major league rules since 1992.

Not long after making an issue of ridding the game of PEDs, Vincent was railroaded out of office, and an owner--Selig--was quietly installed on an interim basis. (We're still waiting for him to be replaced with a legitimate commissioner.) With Fay Vincent in charge, there would have been no steroid scandal. And we certainly wouldn't still be dealing with its effects at this late date.

Another point of fact: Bud Selig secured a no-interest $5 million loan from Minnesota Twins owner Carl Pohlad. Then, Selig attempted contraction of two franchises: Minnesota and Montreal. By contracting the Minnesota franchise, Selig's buddy Pohlad stood to pocket a $185 million fee from MLB, which would have been a minimum of $75 million more than his franchise was worth at the time. So Selig attempted to hand a guy $75 extra million while he had an outstanding $5 million loan with the guy.

How is this guy allowed to infect our game? Stuff like that lands guys in prison camps.


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