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SanDiegoSteve Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 623222)
I'd rather hustle out to get the best distance and angle possible on the catch/no-catch than give some of that up to be sure I can get home for a play that happens once every 10.8765 years.

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 623246)
maybe true...often times, what's another 5 feet going to get you? not necessarily a better look we don't want to make our call while moving. get a good angle, then do the rest of your job and head back toward the plate.

Gotta go with Johnny on this one. I've been standing at home and made the call on the play at the plate as the BU. It looks awesome, and people can actually see that the umpires really do hustle, as normally they don't get to see an umpire make a catch/no catch call in the outfield, and then make the call at home too. It may only happen once in a blue moon, but when that blue moon play happens, I like to be standing at home plate waiting on the batter-runner.

The day has not arrived yet where I can't get out to right field, make a call, make sure there is no trouble with the ball, and be running through the first base coaches box by the time the runner is arriving at 3rd base, and waiting at home if there is going to be a possible play.

bob jenkins Tue Sep 01, 2009 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 623265)
Gotta go with Johnny on this one. I've been standing at home and made the call on the play at the plate as the BU. It looks awesome, and people can actually see that the umpires really do hustle, as normally they don't get to see an umpire make a catch/no catch call in the outfield, and then make the call at home too. It may only happen once in a blue moon, but when that blue moon play happens, I like to be standing at home plate waiting on the batter-runner.

The day has not arrived yet where I can't get out to right field, make a call, make sure there is no trouble with the ball, and be running through the first base coaches box by the time the runner is arriving at 3rd base, and waiting at home if there is going to be a possible play.

I apparently didn't express myself well.

I agree -- go out and try to get back.

But, not everyone can get back if they give the full attention needed to the play in the outfield. For example, outfield shifted to left. High fly down the line (iow, the ball stays in the air a long time). F9 dives and you see the ball hit the glove, but F9 stays on the ground (iow, you need to wait to see what F9 does before you can make the call). BR is state champion sprinter.

95% of umpires will not be able to make it back to the plate if they go out as far as needed on this play.

And for slower umpires, it needn't be that extreme.

And, if I'm forced to choose between staying with the catch / no-catch and gettting back to the play, I'll choose the former.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Sep 01, 2009 01:19pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 623285)
I apparently didn't express myself well.

I agree -- go out and try to get back.

But, not everyone can get back if they give the full attention needed to the play in the outfield. For example, outfield shifted to left. High fly down the line (iow, the ball stays in the air a long time). F9 dives and you see the ball hit the glove, but F9 stays on the ground (iow, you need to wait to see what F9 does before you can make the call). BR is state champion sprinter.

95% of umpires will not be able to make it back to the plate if they go out as far as needed on this play.

And for slower umpires, it needn't be that extreme.

And, if I'm forced to choose between staying with the catch / no-catch and gettting back to the play, I'll choose the former.

My scenario was predicated on there being no trouble with the ball.

johnnyg08 Tue Sep 01, 2009 01:22pm

Certainly the first responsibility is the ball. I agree.

Kevin Finnerty Tue Sep 01, 2009 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 623286)
My scenario was predicated on there being no trouble with the ball.

Whenever I have a trouble ball, I just kick one leg out straight and it usually self-adjusts.

RPatrino Tue Sep 01, 2009 05:18pm

Even if you're wearing a cup?


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