Sea @ Tex-Foul or not?

constable

jwwashburn wrote
Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | SEA@TEX: Wilson believes he fouled off strike three - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

No way to tell. I was surprised the catcher waited so long to tag him.

I have never seen a Major League game end like this.

The PU called him out when he left the dirt, right?

Hard to tell if he did, but he should of as soon as he abandoned the effort to goto first.

renrodb

SanDiegoSteve wrote
After Josh Paul screwed up. Before that, the rule was the batter could run to first anytime before entering dead ball territory.

Can you please give a rule number for the change. I read thru the rules published by MLB and do not find a reference to a batter being called out for leaving the dirt area after he has swung at a pitch. I did find language regarding a batter leaving the dirt area if he didn't swing which is to keep him from delaying the game. Thanks

bob jenkins

renrodb wrote
Can you please give a rule number for the change. I read thru the rules published by MLB and do not find a reference to a batter being called out for leaving the dirt area after he has swung at a pitch. I did find language regarding a batter leaving the dirt area if he didn't swing which is to keep him from delaying the game. Thanks

6.09(b) CMT

renrodb

renrodb wrote
Can you please give a rule number for the change. I read thru the rules published by MLB and do not find a reference to a batter being called out for leaving the dirt area after he has swung at a pitch. I did find language regarding a batter leaving the dirt area if he didn't swing which is to keep him from delaying the game. Thanks

Never mind I found it, thanks
Rule 6.09(b) Comment: A batter who does not realize his situation on a third strike not caught, and who is not in the process of running to first base, shall be declared out once he leaves the dirt circle surrounding home plate.

renrodb

bob jenkins wrote
6.09(b) CMT

You are too fast for me.

bobbybanaduck

DJ rocks.

Umpmazza

TussAgee11 wrote
I used to think in my first or second year that player reactions normally indicated what happened (ball of the foot, etc.) until I saw that youtube with the OK player who acted like he was HBP immediately, and replays showed he wasn't. Players have gotten used to trying to buy the call right away.

It seemed like the way Saltalamacchia scrambled for the ball right away that he at least didn't assume a foul ball, so it was probably indistinguishable to anybody but the batter. And as stated above, I don't necessarily believe him, but don't disbelieve him either. No different than a close banger to end the game I suppose.

actually it was a kid from Arkansas... here is that video..very funny.. btw that kid was stupid and then get thrown out for being a dumbazz...

YouTube - Ole Miss - Arkansas baseball...Emmy Nominations

Ump153

bobbybanaduck wrote
DJ rocks.

Indeed he did. So did Munch in game one.

zm1283

Umpmazza wrote
actually it was a kid from Arkansas... here is that video..very funny.. btw that kid was stupid and then get thrown out for being a dumbazz...

YouTube - Ole Miss - Arkansas baseball...Emmy Nominations

Van Horn is a rat through and through. There are several classics on YouTube of him getting dumped. I know you're supposed to stand up for your player, but how could he defend the kid in that situation? The PU should have ran him in addition to the player.

Hock9

that Walker kid likely prefers limburger

alex7

quick question on the OP video.
Why didn't the PU give a dropped-third-strike mechanic?

Would have saved him some trouble. I know for HS we're instructed to give our strike mechanic followed by the safe mechanic, and I know this is standard to some veteran umpires around these forums as well.

Steven Tyler

alex7 wrote
quick question on the OP video.
Why didn't the PU give a dropped-third-strike mechanic?

Would have saved him some trouble. I know for HS we're instructed to give our strike mechanic followed by the safe mechanic, and I know this is standard to some veteran umpires around these forums as well.

I was at the game. It was obvious to everyone the ball was in the dirt. If he thought it was foul he would have thrown both hands in the air.

Ump Rube

What is that old adage... tie goes to the runner? No... hands are part of the bat? No... maybe it was: "Run 'till they call it foul." You might look funny for a little while, but it is easier to explain why you were running, then why you didn't and it ended the game.

Tim C

"quick question on the OP video.
"Why didn't the PU give a dropped-third-strike mechanic?

"Would have saved him some trouble. I know for HS we're instructed to give our strike mechanic followed by the safe mechanic, and I know this is standard to some veteran umpires around these forums as well."

Because it was not an uncaught mechanic. It was clear that F2 did not catch the ball.

The only call necessary in this sequence would be both hands up if the ball was called foul. When that signal wasn't made it is quite clear that F2 had not caught the third strike.

alex7

Thanks for the sigh and the answer Tim. Stay classy! 🙂

SanDiegoSteve

alex7 wrote
Thanks for the sigh and the answer Tim. Stay classy! 🙂

Good luck with that pi$sing contest!😉

SethPDX

alex7 wrote
Thanks for the sigh and the answer Tim. Stay classy! 🙂

SanDiegoSteve wrote
Good luck with that pi$sing contest!😉

Your odds are just as long here as on the other forum. 😛

alex7

haha, so does every answer bother him? Or just ones he has to give to newbies? It's a forum where we ask questions, and he sounds bothered to have to...answer...questions.

SanDiegoSteve

alex7 wrote
haha, so does every answer bother him? Or just ones he has to give to newbies? It's a forum where we ask questions, and he sounds bothered to have to...answer...questions.

He still talks that way to me. And I'm not all alone, either. He is old, you see, and very set in his ways!:p

Yes Tim, that one is for a rise!

Ump153

alex7 wrote
haha, so does every answer bother him? Or just ones he has to give to newbies? It's a forum where we ask questions, and he sounds bothered to have to...answer...questions.

Tim does not suffer fools well. I don't see that as a sin.

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