Bill Hohn: Worst MLB umpire or merely the most glaring?

realistic

jwwashburn wrote
I figured a response like this. I said "It is at least barely possible that Hohn is not 100% in the right in all of these ejections." When did I blame Hohn? I did not.

I just find it interesting that in all my years of seeing Jones play and all my years of watching Sportscenter, I have NEVER seen him act like this. THAT is why I think that it is barely possible that he may not have been 100% in the wrong and Hohn may not have been 100% in the right.

It doesn't make a difference that Hohn was/was not right. If you act like an idiot, you gotta go.

jwwashburn

Of course Jones deserved to be tossed. I am not talking about whether the ball was a strike or not.

I am just wondering if it is possible that Hohn might be in the lest bit responsible for the situations that are causing him to be tossing guys out like he is Dusty Rhodes in a Battle Royale.

realistic

Nope I don't think he is responsible. If he makes a call and someone goes off, it's not his fault.

The one confrontational thing that BH does is he like to point his finger at the crying rat. This has been seen in several of his ejections.

Go back and review the number of ejections he has over a five year period and that might indicate if he has a case of the redass.

Rich

realistic wrote
I was at that game as well. IMO he was right on both check swings.

I had told my wife before the game that the Brewer's coaches have loose screws. When he run them, she looked at me and smiled.

The first one was a terrible call -- there's no doubt about it -- I was sitting down the first base line and my season ticket partner (who's also a HS/college umpire) and I looked at each other and wondered if this would lead to fireworks. The bat barely flinched. He called it a swinging strike from the plate.

The second call was right, but only because he went to the line umpire. 😀

Rich

jwwashburn wrote
Of course Jones deserved to be tossed. I am not talking about whether the ball was a strike or not.

I am just wondering if it is possible that Hohn might be in the lest bit responsible for the situations that are causing him to be tossing guys out like he is Dusty Rhodes in a Battle Royale.

Dusty and his bionic manboobs.....errr...bionic elbow.

realistic

RichMSN wrote
The first one was a terrible call -- there's no doubt about it -- I was sitting down the first base line and my season ticket partner (who's also a HS/college umpire) and I looked at each other and wondered if this would lead to fireworks. The bat barely flinched. He called it a swinging strike from the plate.

The second call was right, but only because he went to the line umpire. 😃

IMO the batter offered at the pitch but was able to keep the bat back. It is not whether the bat flinches, it's if the batter attempts to swing and that is what I feel he did.

The Brewers were pissed because their pitcher couldn't find the zone for the first couple of innings and then they messed up their chance to score with bases loaded and 1 out. The way the Brewer's hitter performed that night was reason enough to eject those two bench coaches.

realistic

So you see, this is a judgement call. What I interpret as a strike and what you interpret maybe different. That is why baseball is different that other sports. There are rules and then there are interpretations. BBall and football don't have those interpretations.

Rich

realistic wrote
IMO the batter offered at the pitch but was able to keep the bat back. It is not whether the bat flinches, it's if the batter attempts to swing and that is what I feel he did.

The Brewers were pissed because their pitcher couldn't find the zone for the first couple of innings and then they messed up their chance to score with bases loaded and 1 out. The way the Brewer's hitter performed that night was reason enough to eject those two bench coaches.

Forgive me for being rude, but no f#$%ing way was that an offer. Under no possible interpretation of an offer was that an offer.

mbyron

RichMSN wrote
Bobby Cox's problem with umpires rubs off on his players. Big shock there.

This was my exact thought when I saw McCann crying.

realistic

RichMSN wrote
Forgive me for being rude, but no f#$%ing way was that an offer. Under no possible interpretation of an offer was that an offer.

See that's what I am talking about. This isn't about a tag before the runner hits the base. This is a judgement call.

Now the bigger question, If you were the coach would you give me grief if I was the umpire and made the same call?

Rich

realistic wrote
See that's what I am talking about. This isn't about a tag before the runner hits the base. This is a judgement call.

Now the bigger question, If you were the coach would you give me grief if I was the umpire and made the same call?

Only if I didn't have a problem with getting run. Everyone knows that (1) coaches don't argue and (2) you don't argue balls and strikes. So I know if I open my yap, I'm gonna get chunked.

realistic

RichMSN wrote
Only if I didn't have a problem with getting run. Everyone knows that (1) coaches don't argue and (2) you don't argue balls and strikes. So I know if I open my yap, I'm gonna get chunked.

I would bet a day's salary that the average MLB umpire misses less than 3% of pitches called. And I would also bet that the average MLB umpire misses less than 1% of called plays. Taking that into consideration, private internet posters calling one umpire the worst MLB umpire is really splitting hairs because the average umpire's numbers are so good.

Now if there was a post regarding a MLB ump being an ashwhole, that would be another situation. There are ashwholes everywhere.

Kevin Finnerty

So that's all there is to umpiring? Calling strikes and making calls. Cool.

Then Hohn is somewhat average, I guess.

cc6

jwwashburn wrote
Of course Jones deserved to be tossed. I am not talking about whether the ball was a strike or not.

I am just wondering if it is possible that Hohn might be in the lest bit responsible for the situations that are causing him to be tossing guys out like he is Dusty Rhodes in a Battle Royale.

I never knew Dusty Rhodes was in shape. Unfortunately they've now got Cody Rhodes, the most useless wrestler, in a lot of the midcard events.

just another ref

The question I had, along the the SS announcers, was why Hohn had his lineup card out when he was having his friendly chat with Cox. When I read about the game later and found that McCann had also been ejected, I thought that was the answer. "Okay, Bobby, who's gonna catch now?" or whatever. But I see now that McCann's ejection came afterward, so what was the deal? Anybody know or care to speculate?

MrUmpire

RichMSN wrote
I've seen umpires with the Phiten necklaces on, too. Any comments there?

Gullibility is not unique to players.

MrUmpire

jwwashburn wrote
Again, it is not just the safe/out/out call but the amateur hammer. Is that his normal hammer?

That was not his "hammer." That was his punch out.

SanDiegoSteve

MrUmpire wrote
That was not his "hammer." That was his punch out.

I know it's hard to tell the players without a scorecard on some of these threads, but see post #52 on page 4.

jwwashburn

SanDiegoSteve wrote
I know it's hard to tell the players without a scorecard on some of these threads, but see post #52 on page 4.

My original trainer years ago called them both hammers and it always stuck with me even though I know almost everyone calls it a punch out. I usually remember to change my vocabulary but, I forgot. I will apologize as soon as Hohn apologizes for his Leo Sayer bracelet.

LDUB

Kevin Finnerty wrote
So that's all there is to umpiring? Calling strikes and making calls. Cool.

Then Hohn is somewhat average, I guess.

You guess that Hohn is somewhat average? Not even all the way average? Normal people are able to see that everyone who works MLB is very good; no one is somewhat average.

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