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Rich Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:20pm

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Originally Posted by realistic (Post 618001)
IMO the batter offered at the pitch but was able to keep the bat back. It is not whether the bat flinches, it's if the batter attempts to swing and that is what I feel he did.

The Brewers were pissed because their pitcher couldn't find the zone for the first couple of innings and then they messed up their chance to score with bases loaded and 1 out. The way the Brewer's hitter performed that night was reason enough to eject those two bench coaches.

Forgive me for being rude, but no f#$%ing way was that an offer. Under no possible interpretation of an offer was that an offer.

mbyron Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:23pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 617937)
Bobby Cox's problem with umpires rubs off on his players. Big shock there.

This was my exact thought when I saw McCann crying.

realistic Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 618007)
Forgive me for being rude, but no f#$%ing way was that an offer. Under no possible interpretation of an offer was that an offer.

See that's what I am talking about. This isn't about a tag before the runner hits the base. This is a judgement call.

Now the bigger question, If you were the coach would you give me grief if I was the umpire and made the same call?

Rich Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:32pm

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Originally Posted by realistic (Post 618014)
See that's what I am talking about. This isn't about a tag before the runner hits the base. This is a judgement call.

Now the bigger question, If you were the coach would you give me grief if I was the umpire and made the same call?

Only if I didn't have a problem with getting run. Everyone knows that (1) coaches don't argue and (2) you don't argue balls and strikes. So I know if I open my yap, I'm gonna get chunked.

realistic Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 618017)
Only if I didn't have a problem with getting run. Everyone knows that (1) coaches don't argue and (2) you don't argue balls and strikes. So I know if I open my yap, I'm gonna get chunked.

I would bet a day's salary that the average MLB umpire misses less than 3% of pitches called. And I would also bet that the average MLB umpire misses less than 1% of called plays. Taking that into consideration, private internet posters calling one umpire the worst MLB umpire is really splitting hairs because the average umpire's numbers are so good.

Now if there was a post regarding a MLB ump being an ashwhole, that would be another situation. There are ashwholes everywhere.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Jul 30, 2009 01:32pm

So that's all there is to umpiring? Calling strikes and making calls. Cool.

Then Hohn is somewhat average, I guess.

cc6 Thu Jul 30, 2009 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 617972)
Of course Jones deserved to be tossed. I am not talking about whether the ball was a strike or not.

I am just wondering if it is possible that Hohn might be in the lest bit responsible for the situations that are causing him to be tossing guys out like he is Dusty Rhodes in a Battle Royale.

http://www.doiwrestling.com/lowki/pics/dusty1.jpg

I never knew Dusty Rhodes was in shape. Unfortunately they've now got Cody Rhodes, the most useless wrestler, in a lot of the midcard events.

just another ref Thu Jul 30, 2009 01:38pm

The question I had, along the the SS announcers, was why Hohn had his lineup card out when he was having his friendly chat with Cox. When I read about the game later and found that McCann had also been ejected, I thought that was the answer. "Okay, Bobby, who's gonna catch now?" or whatever. But I see now that McCann's ejection came afterward, so what was the deal? Anybody know or care to speculate?

MrUmpire Thu Jul 30, 2009 08:18pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 617918)
I've seen umpires with the Phiten necklaces on, too. Any comments there?

Gullibility is not unique to players.

MrUmpire Thu Jul 30, 2009 08:19pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 617914)

Again, it is not just the safe/out/out call but the amateur hammer. Is that his normal hammer?

That was not his "hammer." That was his punch out.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 30, 2009 08:29pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 618161)
That was not his "hammer." That was his punch out.

I know it's hard to tell the players without a scorecard on some of these threads, but see post #52 on page 4.

jwwashburn Thu Jul 30, 2009 09:42pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 618163)
I know it's hard to tell the players without a scorecard on some of these threads, but see post #52 on page 4.

My original trainer years ago called them both hammers and it always stuck with me even though I know almost everyone calls it a punch out. I usually remember to change my vocabulary but, I forgot. I will apologize as soon as Hohn apologizes for his Leo Sayer bracelet.

https://secure.nbcuniversalstore.com...588768_400.jpg

LDUB Thu Jul 30, 2009 09:45pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 618067)
So that's all there is to umpiring? Calling strikes and making calls. Cool.

Then Hohn is somewhat average, I guess.

You guess that Hohn is somewhat average? Not even all the way average? Normal people are able to see that everyone who works MLB is very good; no one is somewhat average.

MrUmpire Thu Jul 30, 2009 09:52pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 618176)
I will apologize as soon as Hohn apologizes for his Leo Sayer bracelet.

I can't believe how fixated you are with Hohn's bracelet. You must be very lonely.

BTW, it is not a Leo Sayer's model, it is a simple copper bracelet he wears for therapuetic purposes.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:13pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 618177)
You guess that Hohn is somewhat average? Not even all the way average? Normal people are able to see that everyone who works MLB is very good; no one is somewhat average.

Oh wow! He even disagrees with that!

"... No one is somewhat average." Good grief!


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