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SanDiegoSteve Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 609839)
I use the scirrors and sometimes go down on a knee for college games. I think I get the best look at pitches on a knee.
I would work on one knee, except the batter and catcher would have to help me up after every pitch.:o

GoodwillRef Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 609840)
I would work on one knee, except the batter and catcher would have to help me up after every pitch.:o
Nice...we could post the video :D

Rich Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 609839)
I use the scirrors and sometimes go down on a knee for college games. I think I get the best look at pitches on a knee.
Of course you do. You're about 8 feet tall. :D

Klokard Fri Jun 19, 2009 04:14pm
I tried the scissors in a Fed game about 5 years ago. I had a pop fly go straight up and back. The catcher turned quickly to his left. I tried opening the gate and fell flat on my a$$. Next pitch went back to the box.

mdezinno Fri Jun 19, 2009 04:58pm
Can you explain the two positions kinda new to terms

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jun 19, 2009 05:07pm
Scissors

http://www.arizonaumpiringacademy.co...UA/ACUA_01.jpg

Box

http://www.umpire.org/mechanics/signals/ballbox.jpg

Gerry Davis (GD)

http://www.officiating.com/photos/no...e%20corner.jpg

mdezinno Fri Jun 19, 2009 05:09pm
thank you Steve I am new and just trying to get better. thanks

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jun 19, 2009 05:11pm
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Originally Posted by mdezinno (Post 609899)
thank you Steve I am new and just trying to get better. thanks
Experiment with all three. Find the one that works for you.

mdezinno Fri Jun 19, 2009 05:16pm
I ump LL now with there equipment just ordered a bunch of gear from ump-attire and going to take some classes this winter hope to ump alot next spring
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 609900)
Experiment with all three. Find the one that works for you.

SAump Fri Jun 19, 2009 05:49pm
The Box and GD Advantage over Scissors
 
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Originally Posted by mdezinno (Post 609901)
I ump LL now with there equipment just ordered a bunch of gear from ump-attire and going to take some classes this winter hope to ump alot next spring
Insurance companies, MLB, and both pro schools have alerted umpires about the risk of severe neck injury primarily due to the scissors stance. Many severe neck injuries have been reported by MLB umpires who primarily used this scissors stance over a longer period of time {years}. The idea is to get the trunk of your body in a natural position to provide full support for the weight of your head. That extra 14 pound appendage is not designed to lean so far ahead of the trunk of your body for 3 full hours. Some umpires refuse to heed the warning messages.

Good luck!

Happy Father's Day Weekend to All

GA Umpire Fri Jun 19, 2009 07:33pm
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Originally Posted by SAump (Post 609906)
Insurance companies, MLB, and both pro schools have alerted umpires about the risk of severe neck injury primarily due to the scissors stance. Many severe neck injuries have been reported by MLB umpires who primarily used this scissors stance over a longer period of time {years}. The idea is to get the trunk of your body in a natural position to provide full support for the weight of your head. That extra 14 pound appenditure is not designed to lean so far ahead of the trunk of your body for 3 full hours. Some umpires refuse to heed the warning messages.

Good luck!

Happy Father's Day Weekend to All
I heeded it. Although I never had the problems, I could definitely see the problems which could be incurred and quit with the scissors.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jun 19, 2009 08:30pm
I'm GD with a wider stance than the guy in the picture. I'm also a big fan of the tuck-the-hands-in-behind-the-knee-cup method that the guy in the picture employs.

DonInKansas Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:11pm
The picture of the guy in the box stance makes my back hurt. He needs to get a bit more upright.:p

mbyron Sat Jun 20, 2009 06:44am
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 609900)
Experiment with all three. Find the one that works for you.
I disagree. Before you experiment with the scissors stance, you should know that MiLB is actively discouraging (if not quite banning) it, due to the strain it places on the cervical spine. It is not taught in pro school.

Kevin Finnerty Sat Jun 20, 2009 09:09am
I'll say it again, the scissors is unthinkable.


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