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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 12:15pm
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In summary, 1) both catchers and managers were tossed.
2) the safe/out and ball/strike call belongs to the umpire.
3) video evidence does not support the actions of the players
4) players should not be allowed to demonstrate after every close call
5) instant replays, quirky rules and player/managers are sucking up time
6) announcers sadly defend the player/manager actions on the field
7) playing ball and not arguing the call is good for baseball
8) the pressure on umpires is on display and will soon have more effect on the game
9) reflection of unhealthy respect for authority common in American society
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 12:17pm
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In summary, 1) both catchers and managers were tossed.
2) the safe/out and ball/strike call belongs to the umpire.
3) video evidence does not support the actions of the players
4) players should not be aloud to demonstrate after every close call
5) instant replays, quirky rules and player/managers are sucking up time
6) announcers sadly defend the player/manager actions on the field
7) playing ball and not arguing the call is good for baseball
8) the pressure on umpires is on display and will soon have more effect on the game
9) reflection of unhealthy respect for authority common in American society
Bravo!
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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 08:20am
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First off, who ever had respect for P Gammons??? Old liver lips has been spewing that stuff for years.

Can't tell if the play at home was right/wrong. Redmond is a good guy. Mike looked like he was flabbergasted as to why he was ejected. Gardenhire was an automatic.

As it has been already said, Varitek just protected his pitcher and kept him from being ejected. Francona came out to badger the ump since the Twins had problems with him earlier. Francona spit on him after being ejected. Hopefully he will get several days off for that.
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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 08:48am
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Francona spit on him after being ejected. Hopefully he will get several days off for that.
Where did you hear of this? I haven't been able to find documentation of this anywhere. Why isn't it a story anywhere?
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Old Tue Jun 02, 2009, 08:43am
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Where did you hear of this? I haven't been able to find documentation of this anywhere. Why isn't it a story anywhere?
At 29 secs into the video Francona spits between his teeth and Tichenor points at his lower chest/torso. Just because it isn't a news story, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
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Old Tue Jun 02, 2009, 08:57am
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At 29 secs into the video Francona spits between his teeth and Tichenor points at his lower chest/torso. Just because it isn't a news story, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
I didn't see it, that's all. Francona is a notorious spitter. He's always spitting. I'll look again closer this time.
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At 29 seconds, the video cheerfully skips ahead a few frames to the part where Tichenor is pointing to himself. MLB videos are some of the poorest quality videos that I see on my computer, and have caused me to wrongly judge quite a few plays lately.
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Old Wed Jun 03, 2009, 09:57pm
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8) the pressure on umpires is on display and will soon have more effect on the game
What kind of effect do you think the pressure on umpires is going to have on baseball? The men in blue have been slandered for centuries. It is a part of tradition that isn't going to affect change today's game in any noticable way.
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