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MrUmpire Thu May 21, 2009 11:16pm

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 603928)
Is this Single A that he played? Any professional experience is impressive. The odds of making it into the pros are apparently staggering.

If you're referring to the OP, it was the Gulf Coast League, a rookie league.

16 at bats is not impressive.

SethPDX Fri May 22, 2009 02:18am

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 603928)
Is this Single A that he played? Any professional experience is impressive. The odds of making it into the pros are apparently staggering.

And he apparently felt his one week (if that) of rookie ball experience gave him license to pop off to umpires and make a jackazz of himself.


The really good coaches (and umpires) don't have to go around reciting their resumes in order to impress people.

greymule Fri May 22, 2009 11:57am

The notion that having played pro ball automatically confers expertise about the rules is truly specious. The former MLB players I know are not sharp on rules, nor are they particularly interested in the subject—even the guy I occasionally umpire with. They usually have a passable command of the rules that directly affected their play, but with things like INT and OBS, they admit that they just used their instinct and let the umpire make the call. And for things like whether an appeal of a particular missed base results in a force out, they wouldn't even pretend to know.

A good response to "I played pro ball" might be "So did Tim McCarver."

When I umpired in Trenton, New Jersey, the response might have been "So did a dozen other guys in this park."

umpjong Fri May 22, 2009 12:21pm

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Originally Posted by greymule (Post 604056)

A good response to "I played pro ball" might be "So did Tim McCarver."
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Isnt he MLB's rules interpreter/expert?:eek:

ManInBlue Fri May 22, 2009 06:54pm

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Originally Posted by umpjong (Post 604062)
Isnt he MLB's rules interpreter/expert?:eek:


He and Joe Morgan share that responsibility. There are a whole bunch of rules for them to understand. I think they split them up about 50-50.

Unfortuneatley they talk about the 50% that they aren't responsible for!!:confused:

ManInBlue Fri May 22, 2009 07:02pm

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 603928)
Is this Single A that he played? Any professional experience is impressive. The odds of making it into the pros are apparently staggering.

Are you kidding? High school/college kids that play in the Cape Cod league or others like it (those are the summer wood bat leagues in case anyone didn't know;)) have as much or more "pro" experience than this guy.

16 AB's in a short season rookie league with one hit. Color me impressed. NOT!!! The entire season is only 4 months long (mid-May thru mid-Sept), if it's THAT long. And he didn't last for one season.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the GCL or any other short season program.

SanDiegoSteve Fri May 22, 2009 07:49pm

A coach telling an umpire he has "pro" experience is a bit like a patient telling his cardiologist, "hey, I've had 5-way bypass surgery, so I know more about it than you!"

MrUmpire Fri May 22, 2009 08:15pm

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue (Post 604161)
16 AB's in a short season rookie league with one hit. Color me impressed. NOT!!! The entire season is only 4 months long (mid-May thru mid-Sept), if it's THAT long. And he didn't last for one season.


GCL's season is more like the second week of June to the end of August. Two and a half months.

cc6 Fri May 22, 2009 10:44pm

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue (Post 604161)
Are you kidding? High school/college kids that play in the Cape Cod league or others like it (those are the summer wood bat leagues in case anyone didn't know;)) have as much or more "pro" experience than this guy.

16 AB's in a short season rookie league with one hit. Color me impressed. NOT!!! The entire season is only 4 months long (mid-May thru mid-Sept), if it's THAT long. And he didn't last for one season.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the GCL or any other short season program.

Are you saying Cape Cod League is made up of high school players during the summer?

tballump Fri May 22, 2009 10:45pm

He was drafted as a 1st baseman in the 22nd round of the January 1987 draft, 564th pick overall, and the 26th 1st baseman picked that January. Aren't 1st basemen supposed to have some power? He should have gone to spring training or at least extended spring before joining the Expos affiliate in the Gulf Coast League. Wasted time for only 1 single in 16 at bats. Gulf Coast League that plays 70 games like other rookie leagues, should start by June 22th to end on August 31, although it may start a couple days earlier if there are a couple off days built into the schedule.

ManInBlue Fri May 22, 2009 10:53pm

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Originally Posted by MrUmpire (Post 604173)
GCL's season is more like the second week of June to the end of August. Two and a half months.

I stand corrected. I thought I was being a bit generous.

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 604191)
Are you saying Cape Cod League is made up of high school players during the summer?

Unless I am again mistaken, yes there are HS kids that play in the summer wooden bat leagues. Probably Seniors that have just graduated more than anyone younger. Most of them are college kids.

cc6 Fri May 22, 2009 11:00pm

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue (Post 604195)
I stand corrected. I thought I was being a bit generous.



Unless I am again mistaken, yes there are HS kids that play in the summer wooden bat leagues. Probably Seniors that have just graduated more than anyone younger. Most of them are college kids.

So they play professional baseball while going to college or even high school?

SethPDX Sat May 23, 2009 12:27am

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 604196)
So they play professional baseball while going to college or even high school?

No. The Cape Cod League is an amateur league. College players go play there and in similar summer leagues when school lets out.

However, the players in the Cape Cod League are usually solid pro prospects.

SanDiegoSteve Sat May 23, 2009 12:32am

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 604196)
So they play professional baseball while going to college or even high school?

No, they play in the Cape Cod League, which is totally amateur. It is billed as "the premier amateur baseball league in the nation." It is made up mostly of top college players, but anyone with skill is welcome to try out

DonInKansas Sat May 23, 2009 08:58am

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Originally Posted by ManInBlue (Post 604161)
. Color me impressed. NOT!!!

I just had an early 90's flashback, complete with tightrolled jeans. Please put "NOT!" back in it's coffin.:D

And haven't you guys seen Summer Catch? It tells you all about the Cape League. :p;):D


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