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Basic Question #4
During the pre-game plate conference you say to the coaches:
"Are all your players legally and properly equipped including no jewelery?" Both coaches mutter: "Yes." Now it is the fourth inning and the batter at the plate has complained, muttered, shook his head at a few of your calls. You have reached the point that you would really like to dump him but he has not gone quite over your "line". As you call strike three with your best Leslie Nielsen dance steps the batter walks past you giving you the REAL FU stare. You notice at this precise instant that he is wearing a silver necklace. You loudly announce to the crowd of seven: "You're GONE for wearing jewelery!!!!" Are you correct in your ruling? |
Ideally, yes.
By the book, no. Good news, bad news son. Good news, you get to keep your pretty necklace on, bad news, you have to wear it in the parking lot. Your done for arguing balls and strikes. :D |
Nope. Similar to the "in the news" college softball homerun gets taken away this is a warning to the coach of the team involved and the next offender on that team shall be ejected.
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Oh, sorry, back on topic. No,you are not correct. You can run him for the FU/arguing thing, but not for wearing a necklace - warn the team, then start dumping the idiots that just don't get it. |
Tim -
I think I've figured it out. Either your are bored in retirement already or little Rei is screwing up right and left. |
So many times I've wanted to dump a coach when I have to delay my game to have a kid remove his jewelry. The coaches have stated their people are legally safely and properly equipped and lied to me.
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Wow!
Delay your game?
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If you feel the need to dump him for arguing B&S, do so. Don't reach for infractgion at this point. Not worth it. Second game of the series, as at the plate meeting "including non authorized jewelry or pendants" and stare the coach in the face. Warning done.
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Fed rule requires ANY jewelry to be necessary ie. medical tags and MUST be taped over and/or secured to the body.
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"must be a new rule this year" |
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FED 3-3-1 PENALTY: At the end of playing action, the umpire shall issue a warning to the coach of the team involved and the next offender on that team shall be ejected......... (the rest not relevant to this situation) The NCAA rule is pretty much the same - warn then eject. OBR has no "jewelry rule" unless you are dealing with professional baseball, you would defer the penalty to the League Rules of the League that you are working for. Typically, most youth sports leagues do not want players wearing jewelery for safety reasons. |
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This thread pushed me over the edge.
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Contraction Definition: you are --------- your adjective Definition: 1. belonging to person spoken to: refers to something that belongs to or relates to the person who is being spoken to What's your phone number? 2. belonging or relating to somebody: refers to something that belongs or relates to an unspecified person or people in general The house is on your left as you come down the street. 3. indicates typicality: refers to somebody or something as a typical example of a familiar type ( informal ) your typical neighborhood park |
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The OP was cut/paste from the complaint from the AD of the school with the ejected player. You must stand pretty close to edges. |
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Well, I was the plate umpire in this situation when I simply but politely approached the batter and told him to get a new helmet. After his at-bat, the next two guys had a similar problem: they were wearing cracked helmets as well--and not the same helmet, either. Head coach looks at me and says, "We're running out of helmets." Like that's my problem. You'd think this was a no-brainer. |
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Indeed.
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Uh...nope. As previously posted (sorry, I didn't read after the quoted post before posting) |
Emperor...
...didn't anyone ever tell you that you're an extra, not a star? The best game you ever work will be the one after which no one remembers who you are. Seriously.
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Rich
Spokanelurker is just another idiot from Garth's area that does not understand umpiring.
We deal with twits everyday. Trolls are just part of message boards. Regards, |
Indeed, Tee. I had a couple of them tell me how unprofessional I was when I ejected a head coach recently (see "they changed the balk rule thread").
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A couple of them?
We're umpires who don't bait and eject coaches and we differed with you. You baited a coach and ejected him and then boasted about it. What's that ... professional? |
Uh, no. I didn't "boast" about it. I'm never proud or happy to eject someone. However, this doesn't mean I don't find some of what coaches say to get ejected rather humorous.
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Please, have a clue
I get tired of some of this stuff...
Last weekend I ejected 2 high school coaches on Saturday, and a college head coach on Sunday, and they had one thing in common; They ejected themselves. It was their actions that got them ejected, a good umpire simply needs to do what he is asked to do. To so many people who are on here complaining about ejections, get over it. The last thing I, or any good umpire wants to do is eject someone. I try very, very hard to keep coaches around in any game. In the first post, there was probably more than just the barebones description to warrant the ejection. |
So you ejected two coaches in one week? What an ego you must have! Kevin F. would never have done that!
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I think umpires who don't eject when they should eject make things worse for every umpire to follow them...generally speaking, it doesn't make you a better umpire because you don't eject when you have to eject. I'm not saying that we have to have a hair trigger, but when it's necessary, if for nothing else, we owe it to our other umpires
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I remember hearing (reading) it somewhere, probably here, that you eject coaches (and sometimes players) for the 3 (or maybe 4) P's-1. Profane, 2. Personal, 3. Prolonged. Those are what I remember. I have ejected for all three and for bad sportsmanship by players like throwing equipment or threatening another player with cursing involved.
I have refused to dump a coach or two for prolonged arguing and a little personal but it was to make them continue to suffer in bad weather and/or bad baseball (usually both) just like the rest of us. I told a college coach this spring, "Sorry Wayne, you aren't getting out of here that easily, you gave birth to this ugly baby of a game and you have to stay here and watch it die like the rest of us." His team was losing 18-2 in the 8th and I had just rang up his batter for out #3 from 1B on a check swing appeal by my partner. He accused me of "You're cheating these kids. They are playing their butts off and you make a call like that. You're cheating these kids." It was so ludicrous and over the top I actually laughed out loud at him, told him what I quoted earlier then jogged to my spot in RF while he stood there with his hands on his hips. I still laugh when I think about it. He did not and could not say anything else. It was a smart assed comment by me but it was deserved (in my opinion). He was just trying to get dumped to get out of the worst game his team had probably ever played and I just could not give him the satisfaction. I would have dumped him if he had cussed but I think he was a coaching for a Christian school so no cursing. |
I await Kevin's comment that you acted unprofessionally and exemplified your rather large ego.
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You could just say it like Borat: In HS you can wear jewelery.....NOT!
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