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Klokard Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:56am

New Var time record
 
Had a Var game today in SoCal, San Clemente vs. Dana Hills. Finished in 1 hr. 20 min. Anyone beat that?!?

Klokard Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:58am

Not bragging just glad to get a decent game. My last college assignments have been 3 hours plus. Had a 2hr 10min JC game to start the season. ever since, 3 hours plus.

Tim C Sat Mar 21, 2009 09:57am

Hmmm,
 
Klokard:

Not trying to "one up" you but each varsity baseball season here we have several seven innings games that run around one hour. While we have our share of 2:30 to 3:00 hour games I would suggest our "average" high school game runs between 1:20 and 1:40.

My personal best, I was on the stick, was 6 1/2 inning game in 42 minutes. This game included nine consecutive pitches that ended in outs.

Regards,

Rich Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:14am

I worked a WIAA (Wisconsin) sectional semifinal (winner of the sectional goes to the state tournament) on the plate two years ago that ended in 1:10. The game was scoreless with only one or two baserunners through 3.5 innings. In the bottom of the fourth, the home team plated 10 runs and after a 1-2-3 top of the fifth, the game was over.

I'm guessing the bottom of the fourth took up about half of the game. Weirdest fast game I ever worked.

Kevin Finnerty Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 590136)
Klokard:

Not trying to "one up" you but each varsity baseball season here we have several seven innings games that run around one hour. While we have our share of 2:30 to 3:00 hour games I would suggest our "average" high school game runs between 1:20 and 1:40.

My personal best, I was on the stick, was 6 1/2 inning game in 42 minutes. This game included nine consecutive pitches that ended in outs.

Regards,

I only say "strike" when the pitcher throws a strike.

MrUmpire Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 590136)

This game included nine consecutive pitches that ended in outs.

Regards,


Did the string begin with a second or third out or did that result in three three-pitch half innings?

Ump29 Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:59pm

You would need 9 pitches (all strikes ) to record a NINE pitch half inning.
BTW I have had several 3 pitch half innings (no strikes).

cardinalfan Sat Mar 21, 2009 01:04pm

I worked the bases for an NAIA game last week that went 1:15. The home team won 2-0 on a 2-run dinger.

My best in high school was in a state playoff game. Home team led off the last inning with a walkoff homer to win it 1-0. Game went 1:01.

Strikes and ground balls make me a happy guy. An SEC ump once told me, "Make it prove to you it isn't a strike". I give that advice to all young guys.

zm1283 Sat Mar 21, 2009 01:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ump29 (Post 590181)
You would need 9 pitches (all strikes ) to record a NINE pitch half inning.
BTW I have had several 3 pitch half innings (no strikes).

How so?

Batter 1 sees four pitches, grounds out on the fourth pitch.

Batter 2 sees three pitches, flies out on the third pitch.

Batter 3 sees two pitches, grounds out on the second pitch.

9 pitches.

Tim C Sat Mar 21, 2009 01:54pm

Hmm,
 
I do not remember exactly when it happened in the game but it was something such as this:

1 Out 1 On in top of third:

Pitch 1: fly ball out (2 out)
Pitch 2: ground ball to F6 (3 out)

Bottom of third:

Pitch 3: fly ball out (1 out)
Pitch 4: line drive between F7 & F8 to the wall -- Batter runner thrown out trying for second (2 out)
Pitch 5: Ground ball to F4 out (3 out)

Top of four:

Pitch 6: Pop-up to F3 out (1 out)
Pitch 7: One hopper back to F1 out (2 out)
Pitch 8: Ground Ball to F6 out (3 out)

Bottom of four:

Pitch 9: Bunt towards F5 out (1 out)
Pitch 10: Called "BALL"

Was it that hard to understand what I meant. Nine consecutive pitches all resulted in nine consecutive outs.

Usually I understand Kevin -- this time he confused me.

*This write up is NOT exactly what happened -- crap the game was in 1975.

DonInKansas Sat Mar 21, 2009 02:05pm

This game happened three years before I was born. I suddenly don't feel so old.:p

Ump29 Sat Mar 21, 2009 04:41pm

WOW !! two consecutive 3 pitch half innings !! Never had that. Always about at least a half season apart !!

BigUmp56 Sat Mar 21, 2009 04:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 590185)
How so?

Batter 1 sees four pitches, grounds out on the fourth pitch.

Batter 2 sees three pitches, flies out on the third pitch.

Batter 3 sees two pitches, grounds out on the second pitch.

9 pitches.


He didn't mention that any of the outs were strike outs............


Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Mar 22, 2009 03:21am

1:15 on bases, 7 innings full, Varsity.

1:18 on plate, 6-1/2 innings, Varsity.

Maybe if I were an agnostic, I'd have better times!:)





Just kidding, TimC!

njdevs00cup Sun Mar 22, 2009 08:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klokard (Post 590088)
Had a Var game today in SoCal, San Clemente vs. Dana Hills. Finished in 1 hr. 20 min. Anyone beat that?!?

Congratulations! After the last three varsity scrimmages I have worked the phone call home to the wife began with a reply, "We were getting worried about you!"

Ump29 Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 590185)
How so?

Batter 1 sees four pitches, grounds out on the fourth pitch.

Batter 2 sees three pitches, flies out on the third pitch.

Batter 3 sees two pitches, grounds out on the second pitch.

9 pitches.

Sorry I was thinking Strikes !!
Guess that is not so bad !!
Strikes = outs !!!

johnnyg08 Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:28pm

I would agree w/ most posters on here in the fact that on average a 7 inning game should last between 1:20 and 1:40. If you finish one in an hour...that's fast...and of course we have the multiple error, long count, base runners every inning, 14-13 game that touches three hours. We take the good with the bad.

jkumpire Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:31pm

Great job!

I was privileged to work an 11-0 five inning game in 1 hour 15 minutes last year. I was the base ump for the game. It was part of a DH. My plate game was really slow, it was 5-1 in 1:35.

yawetag Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 590202)
This game happened three years before I was born. I suddenly don't feel so old.:p

Five before my birth, grandpa.

Huskerblue Mon Mar 23, 2009 01:57pm

Not this season, but have had several full 7 inning games go right about an hour. My top is 57 minutes. 2-1 Ballgame.

bossman72 Mon Mar 23, 2009 08:05pm

I wish I lived in your parts of the country! A GOOD time around here is 1:45.

DG Mon Mar 23, 2009 08:27pm

I can't figure other parts of the country. 1:20 would be outstanding time. I had one of those two years ago in the 2nd game of the season. One pitcher pitched a one hitter and the other a 3 hitter in a 1-0 game. 1:55 would be closer to average. Either pitching is really good, or hitting really bad, or both, for varsity games to average between 1:20 and 1:40. JV games are longer because the good pitchers are on the varsity team.

ManInBlue Mon Mar 23, 2009 09:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup (Post 590349)
Congratulations! After the last three varsity scrimmages I have worked the phone call home to the wife began with a reply, "We were getting worried about you!"


After the 3:30, 9 2/3 inning game last year mine doesn't tell me that any more. Partner and I were "gone" for 7 hours...for a JV(w/1:15 time limit) and a varsity game. He figured his wife wouldn't believe him.

Can't come close to the quick games - mine are all 2-2.5 hours with the exceptions of course.

w_sohl Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalfan (Post 590183)
An SEC ump once told me, "Make it prove to you it isn't a strike". I give that advice to all young guys.

That is interesting that you mention this. I was sitting thinking last night how other might think when behind the dish. My thought has always been that the pitch is a strike till it isn't. Just wondered what others thought.

Huskerblue Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:40am

When you have pitchers throwing strikes, fielders making plays, and both teams hustling in and out between innings, 1 hour ball games are not hard to come by. Rarely do all of these things occur in a single ballgame, but every now and then they do, and that means you can throw back a few extra "sodas" after the game before the wife expects you home. :D

Kevin Finnerty Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 590899)
That is interesting that you mention this. I was sitting thinking last night how other might think when behind the dish. My thought has always been that the pitch is a strike till it isn't. Just wondered what others thought.

Borrowed from Casey Stengel describing the slider: "He throws that pitch that that looks like a strike 'til it isn't."

Publius Thu Mar 26, 2009 04:15pm

Hmmmmm...
 
Let's assume:

The clock begins with "PLAY!"

A half-inning averages 5 batters.

A batter completes his at-bat in an average of 1 minute (3-pitch average takes 40 seconds, plus the new batter appears immediately in the box every time).

There is an average of exactly one minute between the last out of a half-inning and the first pitch of the next.

The home team wins every time.

Under these conditions, a game zips along--even with substitutions, stolen bases, pick-off attempts, walks, errors and conferences, a half-inning averages six minutes. A six-and-a-half inning game takes 78 minutes, or 1:18. Add just one minute per half-inning--seven minutes is still quick--and then throw on the bottom of the seventh, and you're up to 1:38.

It may be not uncommon for individual umpires who manage games properly and are routinely rewarded with games played by talented teams, but "average" for an area? I'm talking about the mean time for all games played in an entire season. Read again the conditions it takes to move a game that quickly. That's not average, and I don't care where you live.

cardinalfan Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 590899)
That is interesting that you mention this. I was sitting thinking last night how other might think when behind the dish. My thought has always been that the pitch is a strike till it isn't. Just wondered what others thought.

I don't advocate calling a strike when it isn't one, but I like lots of strikes and ground balls!

w_sohl Sat Mar 28, 2009 01:01am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalfan (Post 591948)
I don't advocate calling a strike when it isn't one, but I like lots of strikes and ground balls!

Never said I called a strike when it wasn't, on purpose. May have by accident. But my thinking is that it needs to prove to me that it is a ball before I call it a ball, otherwise it's a strike.

JRutledge Sat Mar 28, 2009 01:09am

I have not worked a game this year, but I have beaten that. I have done games in an hour before. Then again those games are not full 7 innings, but an hour 20 for me is not totally out of the question in many 7 inning games. And I am not talking about scores that are 10-9.

Peace


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