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zm1283 Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:57pm

For Sale: All Star 2200SL
 
Asking $110 for it plus shipping. (Or a good offer) I bought it last fall and have worn it in one game and one scrimmage. Still looks brand new. It's the larger size, up to 7 3/4.

I think I'm going to a Wilson traditional mask. I like the HSM and there's nothing wrong with it, but I always used a traditional when I was a catcher and I think I like them better.

PM me.
https://post.craigslist.org/imagepre...21c3ba19f8.jpg

zm1283 Wed Mar 18, 2009 07:30pm

Sold.

Klokard Sat Mar 21, 2009 01:01am

Are you including the goalie pads, stick and jersey??? Who wears those silly things???

rmiszta Sat Mar 21, 2009 09:13am

Don't knock em until you try em. :)

Seriously, I'm not sure about the one mentioned above, but I used to wear the traditional all the time. Always felt a bit forward heavy no matter how light they are. Picked up the Wilson Shock FX Helmet this year (titanium cage). Awesome and no need for a hat. Light (2.3 pounds), way better vision, especially side to side, looks great, balanced on your head. Wouldn't ever go back to traditional. Just my humble opinion.

Klokard Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:42am

Not meant to be taken seriously. I know some darn good umpires who wear them. Just not to my liking.

Kevin Finnerty Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klokard (Post 590161)
Not meant to be taken seriously. I know some darn good umpires who wear them. Just not to my liking.

I own a Shock FX, but I have yet to wear it other than to test it out with some college players. I suppose I'll wear it someday in a game, but I just haven't made the jump. As Bobby stated, the vision is superior to any mask; the balance is superb as well, and in my experience, the way it absorbs a blow is discernibly better than any mask. You can wipe with all the $tudie$--other than the sound of a blow being louder, there is no comparison to the actual impact of a straight shot to the cage. The Shock FX is markedly safer than any mask.

cardinalfan Sat Mar 21, 2009 01:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 590165)
I own a Shock FX, but I have yet to wear it other than to test it out with some college players. I suppose I'll wear it someday in a game, but I just haven't made the jump. As Bobby stated, the vision is superior to any mask; the balance is superb as well, and in my experience, the way it absorbs a blow is discernibly better than any mask. You can wipe with all the $tudie$--other than the sound of a blow being louder, there is no comparison to the actual impact of a straight shot to the cage. The Shock FX is markedly safer than any mask.

I took a serious shot to the mask wearing my Shock FX last week during a college game. Foul tip got me on the crossbar. Catcher chased down the ball & took it to the pitcher. Wasted some time. But I was ready to go immediately. I haven't felt one yet, great protection... but it does sound like a bomb going off inside the thing when it gets hit!

I still carry my conventional mask too. I just wear whatever I'm in the mood for that day.

ManInBlue Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalfan (Post 590187)
Foul tip got me on the crossbar.

Not trying to be a smarta$$ (but succeeding) - but I'll bet you $100 you didn't take a foul tip to the mask...

bobbybanaduck Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManInBlue (Post 590535)
Not trying to be a smarta$$ (but succeeding) - but I'll bet you $100 you didn't take a foul tip to the mask...


i'd like to get in on that, too, please.

jdmara Mon Mar 23, 2009 08:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalfan (Post 590187)
Foul tip got me on the crossbar.

Don't do it! Don't take the bet! lol They caught me on the same slip many times before :rolleyes: Not that I would take that bet anyways :p

-Josh

cardinalfan Mon Mar 23, 2009 09:45am

OK, whatever. I was typing in a hurry. I know what a foul tip is. I also know how it feels to get hit with a hard foul ball in a conventional facemask. I think some of you smart@sses have been hit too many times. :)

angryZebra Wed Mar 25, 2009 02:04am

Shock FX
 
I got the shock FX at the begining of the season & LOVE IT. Better vision than my old buckethead, which even that one was better than the traditional. What gets me is that the FX they market to umpires runs as much as $300, while the one I got is the adult "catchers helmet", for $130 at a local place - AND it doesn't scuff when it gets hit since it has a non-shiney rubberized-like coating. kinda different.
haven't felt a hit -taken a few... I think? :D

zm1283 Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by angryZebra (Post 591152)
I got the shock FX at the begining of the season & LOVE IT. Better vision than my old buckethead, which even that one was better than the traditional. What gets me is that the FX they market to umpires runs as much as $300, while the one I got is the adult "catchers helmet", for $130 at a local place - AND it doesn't scuff when it gets hit since it has a non-shiney rubberized-like coating. kinda different.
haven't felt a hit -taken a few... I think? :D

That's because the more expensive one is a titanium cage. Your catcher's version is a steel cage.

Chris_Hickman Wed Mar 25, 2009 01:12pm

On Labor day I took a foul and it hit me square in the face. I was wearing a Wilson Titanium low profile. It bent the lower eye bar and broke a weld. I got a mild concussion. Wilson replaced the mask with a standard view.

SAump Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:40pm

Warning, Pass the Word
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman (Post 591311)
On Labor day I took a foul and it hit me square in the face. I was wearing a Wilson Titanium low profile. It bent the lower eye bar and broke a weld. I got a mild concussion. Wilson replaced the mask with a standard view.

Chris, is that all you got from Wilson, a replacement mask?
Tell me you still have possesion of the damaged mask,
statements from three reliable witnesses and a good lawyer.
Send Wilson a message your not happy.
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Is anyone keeping count?
Spread the word among your organizations.
These mask "may be" dangerous, until proven otherwise.
Definitely not a design flaw.
More of a fabricated marketing blunder.
Please ask for your money back from local retailers.

briancurtin Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAump (Post 591468)
Chris, is that all you got from Wilson, a replacement mask?
Tell me you still have possesion of the damaged mask,
statements from three reliable witnesses and a good lawyer.
Send Wilson a message your not happy.
-------------
Is anyone keeping count?
Spread the word among your organizations.
These mask "may be" dangerous, until proven otherwise.
Definitely not a design flaw.
More of a fabricated marketing blunder.
Please ask for your money back from local retailers.

How do you know it's not a design flaw? You mean to say that they purposely chose the materials they did, welded with the techniques they used, so that they would purposely break when impacted? What?

Chris_Hickman Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:28am

I look at it like this. All masks bend if they are hit in the right place. I know guys that use a Nike titanium and they have bent. The ball that hit me was the worst I have ever taken. If I was wearing my Mizuno I am sure it would have bent the sh!t out of that too. That's just the nature of the business. I will say this. I will never use a low profile mask again. My Mizuno is a semi-low profile but nothing like a wilson.

SAump Thu Mar 26, 2009 06:48pm

Go light?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 591472)
How do you know it's not a design flaw? You mean to say that they purposely chose the materials they did, welded with the techniques they used, so that they would purposely break when impacted? What?

I am not disputing with those in charge of production. I am disputing the fact that new products come out as advertised. If I had the choice between a HSM and a titanium mask, I'd be leaning toward the HSM right now. I don't see those HSM guys admit they suffered a concussion wearing a brand new mask or that it bent after the 1st shot. You know what I'm saying.

Ask me if I care what the owners of a +POS SUL mask, hockey style mask or the new view mask say about them. I don't remember so many garbage stories when the original lightweight mask came into use. I don't remember so many injury reports years back. Do I need to increase my insurance coverage? Well, if concussions are hazards of the occupation, perhaps I'll walk away before NFHS require umpires to wear a HSM. Just something to think about.

cardinalfan Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:51pm

I don't know what's up this year.

I have been hit hard in the mask five times and twice in the CP already this year. Most of my games have been NAIA or the higher classifications of high school.
I'm in the exact same position behind the plate as I've always used. I usually don't get hit this many times through college, high school and Legion season.

My Shock FX has been good in every hit. I still don't like carrying the bucket, but I feel good about the protection. I still carry the old mask, but it's getting deeper in the bag all the time.


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