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Maz17 Mon Mar 09, 2009 03:54pm

All American Chest Protector
 
Does anyone know where to get a 13" All American AA37 Chest protector?

NEW or USED?

UmpJM Mon Mar 09, 2009 04:00pm

Umpire Chest Protector | All American from Home Run Sports

DG Mon Mar 09, 2009 06:32pm

Might want to comparison shop, unless mind made up on AA.

Purchase Officials Supplies NorthEast :: Baseball / Softball :: Chest Protectors :: Champion "Hard Shield" Chest Protecor

Maz17 Mon Mar 09, 2009 06:56pm

The website home run sports no longer has them. And the champion is not rated for college/professional baseball!

Come on guys, someone has to have this protector!!1

MrUmpire Mon Mar 09, 2009 07:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maz17 (Post 586756)
The website home run sports no longer has them. And the champion is not rated for college/professional baseball!

Come on guys, someone has to have this protector!!1

I've been told that All American is no longer making this protector.

BTW, by whose rating is the Champion not rated for college/professional? I know of at least two MiLB umpires who wear it.

Maz17 Mon Mar 09, 2009 07:40pm

I know All American is not making it. Was wondering if someone wanted to part with theirs for a top $$$!!!

I know a few milb guys who say the champion is close, but no dice. Get bruised when they take a shot. The All American is superior in protection! Closet thing the the old Riddell Power! Now if someone had one of those, I would empty my bank account! :)

tiger49 Mon Mar 09, 2009 07:41pm

I have had the All American since '05 and still have yet to feel anything when hit while wearing it. Try here, please note the price listed is in Canadian dollars.

Ward and Patch Sports

Maz17 Mon Mar 09, 2009 07:43pm

I know. I here the All american is the best.

Home Run Sports and Ward and Patch no longer have them.

I am guessing you are not willing to sell yours! Name a price my friend!

DG Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by Maz17 (Post 586768)
I know All American is not making it. Was wondering if someone wanted to part with theirs for a top $$$!!!

If you have money burning a hole in your pocket buy a WV Platinum or Gold or Honigs K1, or go on Ebay and see if you can find a Carlucci.

waltjp Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maz17 (Post 586695)
Does anyone know where to get a 13" All American AA37 Chest protector?

NEW or USED?

Protective Equipment

Kevin Finnerty Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger49 (Post 586769)
I have had the All American since '05 and still have yet to feel anything when hit while wearing it. Try here, please note the price listed is in Canadian dollars.

Ward and Patch Sports

What a heap that web site is! Good grief!

cardinalfan Tue Mar 10, 2009 08:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 586831)

That All American shown on this page looks strikingly similar to a K1, don't you think?

Kevin Finnerty Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:02am

I think this is the one Maz covets:

http://www.homerunsports.ca/images/p_AA-37.jpg

Maz17 Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:37am

That is the one I covet.

A gold or platinum is nice. Great protectors. I am a big build guy and when I wear one of the two, I look big. And for college ball, there is a huge emphasis on how one looks. Similar to PBUC.

Kevin Finnerty Tue Mar 10, 2009 01:02pm

From what I have seen in some of the NCAA umpiring recently, they should be more concerned with how they call a game and not how their shoulder caps protrude.

Klokard Tue Mar 10, 2009 01:34pm

Cece Carlucci made each and everyone of his chest protectors to the precise measurements of the buyer. A second hand Carlucci may not provide the best protection if it is illfitting. As far as other protectors looking bulky, just buy the next size shirt.

Maz17 Tue Mar 10, 2009 04:45pm

Carlucci's are nice. I have held one before. As far as ordering another size up shirt... it still falls via gravity on my shoulders and the gold and platinum makes me look to big.

Again... anyone have one they are willing to sell or know of someone?

SanDiegoSteve Tue Mar 10, 2009 05:26pm

Well, I was going to suggest the V-Sport, which is exactly the same construction and quality of the All-American, except I can't find those anymore. I got mine from Lester's a few years back, but now they just sell a crappy looking, lesser-rated, soft covered V-Sport model. I can't find the hard shell one, which stopped freight trains. I would have sold you mine, but BigUmp56 snapped it up right away.

DG Tue Mar 10, 2009 09:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 587164)
Well, I was going to suggest the V-Sport, which is exactly the same construction and quality of the All-American, except I can't find those anymore. I got mine from Lester's a few years back, but now they just sell a crappy looking, lesser-rated, soft covered V-Sport model. I can't find the hard shell one, which stopped freight trains. I would have sold you mine, but BigUmp56 snapped it up right away.

Agree. My CP is a V-Sport. Best $80 I ever spent in equipment. The All American and the Champion certainly appear to be similar constructed. I think it will last till I quit umpiring so I am not looking for another.

Maz17 Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:35pm

Does anyone have a picture of this v-Sport?

SanDiegoSteve Wed Mar 11, 2009 04:17am

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Originally Posted by Maz17 (Post 587245)
Does anyone have a picture of this v-Sport?

Here is a pdf of Lester's 2007 Catalog. On the first page is the V-Sport. Zoom in a few clicks for a really good look at it. It is item # BA813, which is no longer available in their new catalog. It pretty much looks just like the All-American, which by strange coincedence :rolleyes: is also unavailable suddenly.

http://www.lestersupstatesports.com/...007Catalog.pdf

piaa_ump Wed Mar 11, 2009 09:27am

my .02
 
sounds as if someone infringed on a patent.........and the remedy was to pull them from the market?

cc6 Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:29am

On another note, why was the uniforms thread locked? It looked like we were getting into some good discussion on what the generally accepted uniform standards are.

SAump Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:57pm

My memeory fails me.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maz17 (Post 587245)
Does anyone have a picture of this v-Sport?

Someone here was posting pictures of their craft just a couple of months ago. It seems the little seamster would be willing to make one specifically for you. Of course you would need to contact him and he would need your specific measurements. This private party agreement would not break current law.

cardinalfan Wed Mar 11, 2009 02:05pm

That was PensaUmp

http://forum.officiating.com/basebal...o-gallery.html

Hey PensaUmp, how is the chest protector working for you?

Klokard Thu Mar 12, 2009 01:47am

Just like choosing between Chevys, Fords, and Dodges. Since Cece has passed on to the PCL beyond, I can recommend that there is NO perfect CP for everybody. I have attended many camps from Little League to NCAA required camps for my advancement and I have seen all sorts of CP's. . I started my career 28 years ago with an off the rack Rawlings and it was fine for small ball. Once I got into HS ball, I spent the money on a Carlucci. It lasted me almost 20 years. I no longer use it as it literally fell apart. I tried the WV Gold, Platinum, All-Star, Honigs 1, etc... I am now using the Douglas 1st generation that I bought on eBay and modified the crap out of to make it work. It is my opinion that ANY of the TOL protectors can work, it's what you feel comfortable wearing.

As a side note, Cece Carlucci made the best protector EVER. It was made for you. He lost all chances of making any money on his design as he never patented it. Joe West copied his design and struck a deal with Douglas years ago. He then got upset with what Douglas was paying him for his assistance with the design of their protector and he went on to greener pastures (ie...money) with Wilson. He was instrumental in the developement of the Gold and Platinum. He no longer has any input as to the developement of their product.

As much as I feel the Carlucci is the best CP EVER made, it is in the fact that he made it to each individuals measurements that made it so great. A second hand or older generation Carlucci probably won't offer the best protection.

Klokard Thu Mar 12, 2009 02:26am

Kevin Finnerty, Just out of curiosity, what is your level of qualification? I only ask due to the fact that you are correct in the fact that an umpires presentation should not be first and foremost. However, you may or may not know that D1 umpires are evaluated on EVERY game they do. Not just occasionally when they request it. There may be some D1 umpires that are not of your standard but they got there somehow. Maybe let go MiLB AA or AAA guys or what ever. If you desire to move into the D1 ranks, keep working on your game and learn from your peers. Bagging on D1 guys won't help. Yes it is frustrating to watch a D1 game and see several rotation screwups as well as a blown call or two, but believe me. It was noticed by someone. The D1 crowd is the most difficult of barriers to break. It does appear to be a good ol boys group. I have done MiLB ball and have been working my way up in the college ranks. This is not my career. I am with a fire dept. and hope to peak in a year or two when I retire and pick up a D1 contract or two.

Just a note, I was told by one of my assignors to lose some weight. He told me that I can not move up due to my image. I have always been a big guy. (played OLB at Okla State, now 6' 230lbs.) I asked if I had ever missed a rotation or was out of position, he replied "no", but it doesn't look good. How's that for feeling singled out?

cardinalfan Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxstance (Post 587957)
I received a V-Sport this morning and can't begin to thank you enough for turning me on to such a terrific protector. For $75 I got all of the protection that a Gold, Platinum, K-1 or Davis could offer. I haven't had the satisfaction of ever trying a Power or a Carlucci on so I can't speak for them but this protector is the bomb. I now have a cp that I will wear every time and a protector that is really no longer available. Right time, right place.

I haven't seen a V-Sport or Champion protector in person. I wonder how they can be so cheap if they're as good as the $150 CP's?

Glad there is an affordable protector on the market that offers good protection.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Mar 13, 2009 05:20pm

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Originally Posted by cardinalfan (Post 588046)
I haven't seen a V-Sport or Champion protector in person. I wonder how they can be so cheap if they're as good as the $150 CP's?

Glad there is an affordable protector on the market that offers good protection.

It's really not that they are cheap, it's that West Vests are overpriced. They should be selling for right around a hundred bucks, but some places sell them for around $200, depending on who's selling them. I've seen Platinums as low as $139 and as high as $209.

Here is the link to see a good photo of them, in case you didn't see it in the other thread:

http://championsports.com/cgi-bin/ca...method=perfect

BaBa Booey Fri Mar 13, 2009 05:49pm

Just got my V-sport....I've worn an All-American before and I can hardly tell the difference. The padding is great, it covers everything it needs to, the plastic is no different than on my old Wilson Gold. With my season about to start I'm pretty excited to have gotten my hands on this. Thanks Steve for posting the info about it!

SanDiegoSteve Fri Mar 13, 2009 05:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaBa Booey (Post 588175)
Just got my V-sport....I've worn an All-American before and I can hardly tell the difference. The padding is great, it covers everything it needs to, the plastic is no different than on my old Wilson Gold. With my season about to start I'm pretty excited to have gotten my hands on this. Thanks Steve for posting the info about it!

You're welcome. Where did you get your V-Sport? I can't seem to find one.

BaBa Booey Fri Mar 13, 2009 06:42pm

Lesters still has a few left. Call and ask for Dave.

DG Fri Mar 13, 2009 09:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 588173)
It's really not that they are cheap, it's that West Vests are overpriced. They should be selling for right around a hundred bucks, but some places sell them for around $200, depending on who's selling them. I've seen Platinums as low as $139 and as high as $209.

Here is the link to see a good photo of them, in case you didn't see it in the other thread:

09page

The P210 looks exactly like my V-sport, except mine has V-Sport written on it where Champion is on the P210. I paid $80 and have no interest in spending more money on a CP.

Maz17 Sat Mar 21, 2009 03:06pm

Back to the origin of this post. I know the vsport is great. But ask around. Someone has to have this all american.

etn_ump Sun Mar 22, 2009 07:24pm

I have one, wore it 4 times last week. I purchased mine used from another umpire on another board and have used it for the past 4 years. Absolutely awesome chest protector.

However, I have seen the V-sport and tried it on. It may appear the same, but it does not fit the same and it doesn't appear to be constructed nearly as well. JMO.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Apr 11, 2009 01:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maz17 (Post 586695)
Does anyone know where to get a 13" All American AA37 Chest protector?

NEW or USED?

I received an email from Cindy at All American Sports tonight in response for my request for the hard shell All American Chest Protector. She said to call Michael at 1-800-422-2189 and that he has what we are looking for.

ManInBlue Sat Apr 11, 2009 06:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG (Post 588213)
The P210 looks exactly like my V-sport, except mine has V-Sport written on it where Champion is on the P210. I paid $80 and have no interest in spending more money on a CP.


Same deal here. I had a V-sport and sold it (it was too long). Couldn't find V-sport any more, bought a Champion. Other than what's written on the front, and the mesh backing, I can't tell a difference, .

SanDiegoSteve Sat Apr 11, 2009 09:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 595317)
I received an email from Cindy at All American Sports tonight in response for my request for the hard shell All American Chest Protector. She said to call Michael at 1-800-422-2189 and that he has what we are looking for.

Bump.

sri8527 Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:29am

i was just wondering if you guys have seen the new stuff "The Officials Call" has come up with. i was just looking around and saw it, the cp looks alot like what you are looking for, looks pretty good, but then again looks can be decieving.


steve

SanDiegoSteve Tue Apr 14, 2009 02:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by sri8527 (Post 595477)
i was just wondering if you guys have seen the new stuff "The Officials Call" has come up with. i was just looking around and saw it, the cp looks alot like what you are looking for, looks pretty good, but then again looks can be decieving.


steve

What is "Officials Call." I don't seem to be able to find such a listing.

Kevin Finnerty Tue Apr 14, 2009 03:02am

Steve,

Here's their ebay listing:

2 Brand New Umpire Shirts - short sleeve, 6 colors! - eBay (item 280326506697 end time Apr-23-09 20:55:08 PDT)

cardinalfan Tue Apr 14, 2009 08:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 595857)
What is "Officials Call." I don't seem to be able to find such a listing.

Official Call

Don't know anything about these folks. Not a bad looking CP.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Apr 15, 2009 01:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalfan (Post 595883)
Official Call

Don't know anything about these folks. Not a bad looking CP.

Not the same as the All American, to which I posted the number of the guy who has them. Pretty crappy looking Web site, from a designer's point of view. Horrible, actually.


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