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tip184 Wed Jan 21, 2009 01:34pm

Honig's Red Shirts
 
The red shirts at Honig's appear from the picture to be a bit more of a scarlet or a maroon than just a straightforward red. Is the colour they sell the correct colour? Because the picture of the Smitty's red shirt looks a lot more like a red.

Which one is correct?

waltjp Wed Jan 21, 2009 01:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tip184 (Post 570877)
The red shirts at Honig's appear from the picture to be a bit more of a scarlet or a maroon than just a straightforward red. Is the colour they sell the correct colour? Because the picture of the Smitty's red shirt looks a lot more like a red.

Which one is correct?

Neither.

Umpmazza Wed Jan 21, 2009 02:07pm

I have one and it is RED...

SethPDX Wed Jan 21, 2009 05:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tip184 (Post 570877)
The red shirts at Honig's appear from the picture to be a bit more of a scarlet or a maroon than just a straightforward red. Is the colour they sell the correct colour? Because the picture of the Smitty's red shirt looks a lot more like a red.

Which one is correct?

There is no correct shade of red. :)

Kevin Finnerty Wed Jan 21, 2009 06:27pm

The industry standard red umpire shirt looks pretty good ... on the golf course.

tip184 Wed Jan 21, 2009 06:41pm

Oh come on. Somebody here has to know red. You either love it or you hate it. There have to be a few non-haters here.

DonInKansas Wed Jan 21, 2009 06:57pm

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Originally Posted by tip184 (Post 570946)
Oh come on. Somebody here has to know red. You either love it or you hate it. There have to be a few non-haters here.

You haven't been lurking here very long, have you.:p

http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...ight=red+shirt

ozzy6900 Wed Jan 21, 2009 08:22pm

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Originally Posted by tip184 (Post 570946)
Oh come on. Somebody here has to know red. You either love it or you hate it. There have to be a few non-haters here.

It doesn't matter what shade of red one wears, none of them match unless they are from the same supplier and the entire crew looks like clowns anyway. I've owned a red shirt for over 15 years and was forced to wear it twice. I hated every minute of it!

ozzy6900 Wed Jan 21, 2009 08:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 570949)
You haven't been lurking here very long, have you.:p

http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...ight=red+shirt

Thanks for the link, Don. I really miss Garth on this board and I got a chance to read some of his posts again. Sad that he is not here anymore. :(

DonInKansas Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:41pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 570963)
Thanks for the link, Don. I really miss Garth on this board and I got a chance to read some of his posts again. Sad that he is not here anymore. :(

I miss Garth too; I also suddenly have DISCO FEVER! :D

Umpmazza Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:09pm

In American Legion they can wear red...I thought how gay a red shirt?.... well I bought one, have not wore it yet, will I? probably. Also I started out umpiring in Adult Softball for USSSA who only wears Red. I thin it's not a bad color, maybe the reason no one likes it cause it is never worn. I bet if MLB umpires started to wear Red alot of Umpires would switch...LOL

Klokard Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:19pm

Umpmazza...they did wear it for a bit.

DG Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:25am

I LOVE RED SHIRTS. I have many and wear to all kinds of sporting events; T shirts, polos, long sleeve, sweats, hoodies and a couple of jackets.

I would not umpire a baseball game with one on though. Never have, don't see it happening.

BEAREF Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:40am

worked an adult amatuer town team all star tournament last 4th of July, three man crew, one Red, one White and one Blue. We got lots of compliments...on how we looked AND how we worked the game.

Emperor Ump Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 570963)
Thanks for the link, Don. I really miss Garth on this board and I got a chance to read some of his posts again. Sad that he is not here anymore. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 570999)
I miss Garth too; I also suddenly have DISCO FEVER! :D

Ditto.

Rcichon Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:14pm

unhhhh...
 
I can't believe I'm gonna do this.


It's scarlet, bright.

Haven't worn it in....seems like two years.

THERE! It's OUT!

tip184 Thu Jan 22, 2009 06:06pm

I finally found a picture of the shade of red I think should only be sold:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ayphotohosting

I think it looks quite neat. Too bad nobody else wears them.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Jan 22, 2009 06:22pm

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Originally Posted by tip184 (Post 571378)
I finally found a picture of the shade of red I think should only be sold:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ayphotohosting

I think it looks quite neat. Too bad nobody else wears them.

http://i5.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2a/1c/2bda_3.JPG

What in hell is that navy shirt with the shoulder gussets all about? Anybody else ever seen those? And would you buy a shirt from a guy that looks like he's going to have an outburst?

BretMan Thu Jan 22, 2009 06:49pm

That same guy has been selling those navy w/stripes shirts on eBay for about five years now. He's located up in the Great White North, so maybe it's a Canadian thing. I have never seen one down here in The States.

Personally, I don't think they look that bad- at least compared to some of the other oddball color combinations out there.

As for red shirts, I have one that I bought used on eBay for ten bucks a few years ago. We have some guys that I work summer leagues with that think red is uber-cool and, if they want to wear red, I got red. Mine's a good old +POS and when I say "red", this baby is, like, fire engine red! As a shirt color, I could take it or leave it. They look okay- at least, they don't instill in me the same revulsion that they seem to in others.

Another eBay find was a brand-new, still in the wrapper, genuine baby blue Elbeco. Dropped five bucks on that one and break it out once or twice a year for league games if the weather's not too warm. The Elbeco's were really before my time- and I'm glad of that! Ironing those suckers is a pain!

Kevin Finnerty Thu Jan 22, 2009 07:29pm

I do everything I possibly can to avoid wearing H.S. powder blue ... except wearing red.

Carbide Keyman Thu Jan 22, 2009 09:36pm

I just LOVE the red shirt !!!!

I wish they would change our association's bylaws to allow us to mauve, puce, teal, and magenta.

Umpmazza Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:11pm

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Originally Posted by Klokard (Post 571004)
Umpmazza...they did wear it for a bit.

I would still bet, if MLB wore these shirts next season, honigs would run out from all of the amateur umpires buying them up... and before anyone ask. Yes I do have one, have not wore it as we only wear it in Am legion games, but I know this summer it will be on.

umpduck11 Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:18pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 571408)
I do everything I possibly can to avoid wearing H.S. powder blue ... except wearing red.

I'd kill to wear something other than navy blue during HS season.....

Durham Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:35pm

The HS group here allows for any color to be worn as long as both partners match. I only carry two colors, Black and Powder, and I always wear Black on the plate. The way I see it is, Hot is Hot! What is a couple of degrees?

If a partner contacts me and wants to wear a different color, then I'll bring it, but there are too many colors to pick from and I don't work enough HS games to warrant carrying more than 5 shirts in my bag. Long sleeve black plate, short sleeve black and powder plate, and short sleeve black and powder base.

I should probably just take the powder plate one out of the bag. :)

kylejt Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:50pm

http://i5.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2a/1c/2bda_3.JPG

Am I the only one that's deeply disturbed by this image. I'm not talking about the shirts here guys.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it's just WRONG.

swkansasref33 Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:51pm

I work a tournament during the summer on 4th of July weekend, and on all the games of the 4th of July we wear red white and blue, seeing as we run a 3 man crew... looks pretty sharp IMO, and have been told it looks pretty good... of course i take it to other tournaments, because it doesnt hurt to switch up the colors every once in a red moon :D

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:40am

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Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 571482)
http://i5.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2a/1c/2bda_3.JPG

Am I the only one that's deeply disturbed by this image. I'm not talking about the shirts here guys.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it's just WRONG.

There's three of 'em I wouldn't trust with my daughter and three of 'em I wouldn't trust with my son ... Is that what you're saying?

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:46am

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Originally Posted by umpduck11 (Post 571452)
I'd kill to wear something other than navy blue during HS season.....

It's getting to the point that no one wears that one unless they have to, either. It's become black, MLB polo, cream, and then navy as the popular order. With me, it's black, cream, gray, MLB polo, navy. And I too love that black long sleeve. Any time I am UIC, I choose black, and if it's extremely hot, cream or gray or maybe MLB polo.

Umpmazza Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 571482)
http://i5.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2a/1c/2bda_3.JPG

Am I the only one that's deeply disturbed by this image. I'm not talking about the shirts here guys.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it's just WRONG.

are you referring to all of them wearing a watch, or some type of wrist band?

Klokard Fri Jan 23, 2009 01:05am

Honigs sells a bunch of different colors. True. But, the point should be....do you as the PU or UIC match your partner? If yes...than wear what ever color you want. I made a post on a different blog here about wearing Hawaiian shirts and even bringing out the balloon protector for a JC game. It worked...we matched and the game went off without a hitch. It's who's wearing the shirt, not the color of the shirt. Nuff' said!!!

kylejt Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 571502)
are you referring to all of them wearing a watch, or some type of wrist band?

No, I'm talking about the guy copping a feel of the cigar store Indian.

And why is Barack Obama's picture on the barracks wall? Is this the new Guantanamo Bay relocation site?

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:24am

I thought that was the young Orlando Cepeda.

http://senorboriqua.net/v-web/galler...ndo_cepeda.jpg

aschramm Fri Jan 23, 2009 01:25pm

I'm sort of curious as to why the PU in that picture has red, but the rest of the crew has the navy blue shirts.

Personally, I don't think red looks that bad, especially with heather gray pants. I don't own one though, I just stick to the navy and powder blue.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jan 23, 2009 05:25pm

You get the impression that the umpire in red came to the game on the short bus.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...y/2bda_3-1.jpg

Welpe Fri Jan 23, 2009 05:33pm

The PU wearing red with the BU's in navy is something that the American League umpires used to do. This was not long after the AL and NL umps went to the pullovers from the Elbecos.

kylejt Fri Jan 23, 2009 07:34pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 571794)
You get the impression that the umpire in red came to the game on the short bus.

I was thinking more along the lines of a huge ventriloquist dummy.

http://www.vpuppets.com/images/ramdas.jpg

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jan 23, 2009 08:43pm

:D:D:D:D:D

[falling out of chair]

tballump Sun Jan 25, 2009 01:26pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 570963)
Thanks for the link, Don. I really miss Garth on this board and I got a chance to read some of his posts again. Sad that he is not here anymore. :(

I think everyone misses Garth. However, since his son is in pro-ball, I would think it is best (IMHO) if both Garth and his son, ("if" he ever posted before) do not post to any site once Major League Baseball decided it was best to shut down Rob Drake's site.

I believe Rob explained MLB concerns over the site, and he fully agreed with their concerns (even though he was going to see if he could work out a compromise and keep the site up), and then shutdown.

It has been mentioned, that ever since MLB discovered Rob's website, his evaluations have slowly eroded. Coincidence(?), or are they just really looking over their evaluations extra carefully in anticipation of some possible openings due to injuries (Larry Poncino) and retirements when the new contract is signed in 2010.

It would be a shame if, Guccione, Drake, and Hoye who have all worked close to 1000 games( 7 years worth of full time employment) or more did not make it, but there were never any guarantees anyway (just ask Tom Lepperd). Hopefully, they just spent their expense money and put every dime from the game fees in the bank for the last 7 years in case they are not hired.

And while I'm on the topic, another contract will have to be negotiated for the AMLU after 2011. I would hope the College and High School umpires will not cross the lines this time if the AMLU decides they have to go on strike. If any amateurs want to see if they can umpire in Pro ball there is the Jim Evan's school and Harry Wendelstedt's school to go and try. Everyone has the same opportunity to try and get into the Pro game if they are good enough and maybe?? the WUA. Just because someone did not take the opportunity to try, is not a good reason to go and get involved in the MiLB disagreements between the umpires and management IMHO.

Besides, all the player's and coaches are usually under "gag order" from the office not to make any negative comments on the field or to the press concerning the "replacement or fill-in umpires". This also puts a tremendous strain on the regular amateur "assignors" and the leagues and schools they cover when umpires bolt for the MiLB just to try and prove they can call a "Pro" game.

Let's just say you can do the job. Big deal (that don't impress me much). Then get down to the schools and sign up. It looks like a full time "A" umpire can make about $10,000 for 140 games. That is $71 a game, and from post's on this board there are HS umpires in several areas making this amount of money. These AMLU guys are pro's, yet they are making less. Even the AAA guys are only making $107 per game. The D1 Colleges pay $200. So, to just try and prove you "could call at the pro level" does not make sense to me. Remember a coaches "good game" under a "gag order" holds no weight whatsoever and even if it did, big deal. There is a right way (go to the umpire school and make it and then start your quest) or the wrong way, by jumping into and interfering in someone else's business.

JMHO (from reading this forum and articles on the internet) to all of this post.

Maybe all the "red color" stuff started with the old AL maroon colors years ago.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:14pm

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Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 571393)
That same guy has been selling those navy w/stripes shirts on eBay for about five years now. He's located up in the Great White North, so maybe it's a Canadian thing. I have never seen one down here in The States.

Personally, I don't think they look that bad- at least compared to some of the other oddball color combinations out there.

The person who sells these shirts is Heykid41, or Scott to those of us who know him. He is a member of this, and other umpire forums. He got rave reviews from some people, and nothing but grief and ridicule from the rest of you neanderthals:p on this site! They are around down in the States too, so it isn't a Canadian thng. They also were made in gray with red stripes too, if I recall. Scott is a really great guy, but I notice that he has broken down and bought some Official's Choice shirts. You can view his post on that thread.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:18pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 571605)

And why is Barack Obama's picture on the barracks wall? Is this the new Guantanamo Bay relocation site?

Oh, please, please...can we relocate him to Gitmo? Please, please!!!!!:cool:


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