Baseball's Black Hole - Terminal Velocity

[SAump]

Originally Posted by tornado

Who else hears Rod Serling's voice?

I was strictly talking terminal velocity. The baseball does "silly things" at or near terminal velocity.

Pretty good "science-fiction" analogy posted by member tornado, both classy and intellectual.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SAump

I was strictly talking terminal velocity. The baseball does "silly things" at or near terminal velocity.

Key words in comment include turbulent flow, vortex channel, vorticity, etc.

Pretty good "science-fiction" analogy posted by member tornado, both classy and intellectual.

Do you have any idea what "terminal velocity" means?

Please stop posting this crap.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Do you have any idea what "terminal velocity" means?

Judging from his post, no, he does not.

ter·mi·nal ve·loc·i·ty
• n. Physics the constant speed that a freely falling object eventually reaches when the resistance of the medium through which it is falling prevents further acceleration.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Terminal velocity is the speed that a train is traveling when it goes right through a train terminal without stopping.

I can't believe more people don't know that.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by tip184

Too much physics for a Monday morning. The article you posted has no flow, it doesn't explain concepts, and it is just incomprehensible. Why can scientists not write anything in english?

There's a simple explanation for this part. As for myself, I will trust Tim (and gravity).

On the other hand, he linked a Wikipedia article, so he must be right...

[tballump]

Once again who gives a rats anus-- and who gives a flying fornication. Next time we all need to band together and make sure there are no responses to a post like this, matter of fact, nothing personal (as this is directed at the post and not the person posting this), but I will not even open it to read. Let's follow Tim_C's lead. This type post is counterproductive on this site. It belongs on a physics post with Earl Weaver who I'm sure would be interested and love to hear all about it before he comes out of retirement or passes on to managerial heaven.

[LDUB]

I can seem to find the link to add someone to my ignore list. Has that feature been removed?

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by LDUB

I can seem to find the link to add someone to my ignore list. Has that feature been removed?

Go to "User CP" at the top, then "Edit Ignore List"

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by tballump

Once again who gives a rats anus-- and who gives a flying fornication. Next time we all need to band together and make sure there are no responses to a post like this, matter of fact, nothing personal (as this is directed at the post and not the person posting this), but I will not even open it to read. Let's follow Tim_C's lead. This type post is counterproductive on this site. It belongs on a physics post with Earl Weaver who I'm sure would be interested and love to hear all about it before he comes out of retirement or passes on to managerial heaven.

Actually there was a time a couple of years ago when this was a fun discussion during the off season. But for some reason the discussion turned to the dark side. And when put into a context that the myth applies to umpiring baseball it's not an all together useless exercise.

Experts have time and time again proposed that the myth of a rising fastball has been perpetuated by real physics. By that I mean that what appears to some to be a rise in the pitch is actually a decline in it's trajectory that's less than the observer had anticipated. Tie that into proper tracking of pitches by the proper use of the eyes, and it does become of value to this forum.



Tim.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Actually there was a time a couple of years ago when this was a fun discussion during the off season. But for some reason the discussion turned to the dark side. And when put into a context that the myth applies to umpiring baseball it's not an all together useless exercise.

Experts have time and time again proposed that the myth of a rising fastball has been perpetuated by real physics. By that I mean that what appears to some to be a rise in the pitch is actually a decline in it's trajectory that's less than the observer had anticipated. Tie that into proper tracking of pitches by the proper use of the eyes, and it does become of value to this forum.

Tim.

I was afraid this thread had spun out of control.
Thanks for bringing the topic back down to earth.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Experts have time and time again proposed that the myth of a rising fastball has been perpetuated by real physics. By that I mean that what appears to some to be a rise in the pitch is actually a decline in it's trajectory that's less than the observer had anticipated. Tie that into proper tracking of pitches by the proper use of the eyes, and it does become of value to this forum.



Tim.

No, experts proposed that that myth was perpetuated by the optical illusion you discussed, not real phyiscs.

The true facts have beed discussed ad nauseum and and continued interest is found primarily in those who enjoy whipping deceased equines.