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aschramm Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:03am

NFHS Rule Changes
 
Does anyone know if there are any rule changes for high school baseball in 2009?

justanotherblue Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:13am

LOL, there are always changes! You can check the NFHS website. They usually come out in Referee in Novemberish??

aschramm Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:31am

I actually found it,
http://www.nfhs.org/web/2008/06/2009...s_changes.aspx

Doesn't seem like there is anything major though.

David B Tue Oct 07, 2008 08:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschramm (Post 541591)
I actually found it,
http://www.nfhs.org/web/2008/06/2009...s_changes.aspx

Doesn't seem like there is anything major though.

Wait til you get your book, there's always changes, they just don't tell us !!!!;)

Thanks
David

Tim C Tue Oct 07, 2008 08:33am

And,
 
The Portland Baseball Umpires Association is considering, for the first time ever, to NOT include the 2009 Rules Book in our mandatory registration packets. This will lower the cost to our umpires by $7.95.

We will buy a few books and pass out any "unpublished" changes that have occurred.

We are also considering not forcing purchase of the 2009 Case Book either.

We will, of course, supply Rules and Case Books to all new umpires and anyone that wants to purchase them individually.

Regards,

griff901c Tue Oct 07, 2008 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 541633)
The Portland Baseball Umpires Association is considering, for the first time ever, to NOT include the 2009 Rules Book in our mandatory registration packets. This will lower the cost to our umpires by $7.95.

We will buy a few books and pass out any "unpublished" changes that have occurred.

We are also considering not forcing purchase of the 2009 Case Book either.

We will, of course, supply Rules and Case Books to all new umpires and anyone that wants to purchase them individually.

Regards,

Tim...just curious...my association charges $60.00 a year..baseball and

softball(ugh) for dues and all rulebooks..case books, included.We provide our own insurance as a contracter.

What is the cost for your association?

Tim C Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:35am

Hmm,
 
I believe that our fee last year was $85.00 -- that includes packet, fees for association and another charge (background check). The packet itself is priced by the Oregon School Activities Association using the NFHS costs marked up.

I hope this makes sense. I believe the packet of books and the right to take the test last year was $55.00.

Regards,

ematejek Tue Oct 07, 2008 07:53pm

2009 Baseball Rules Changes
 
2009 Baseball Rules Changes


1-2-2
Change: All non-permanent lines on the playing field shall be marked white with a material not injurious to the eyes or skin. Lime or caustic material of any kind is prohibited.

Rationale: Clarification for proper lining instructions for grass and turf fields.

6-2-3
Change: Intentionally pitch close to a batter.

Rationale: To reinforce the responsibility of the pitcher while he has engaged the pitcher's plate.

7-3-4

Penalty
Change: Penalty: The batter remains at bat (pitch is a ball or strike) unless the pitch was a third strike or ball four.

Rationale: Clarification.

10-1-9 and Umpires' Manual
Delete: ... word "heather" gray

Rationale: Heather gray slacks are slowing becoming difficult to acquire. Equipment dealers are transitioning into charcoal gray slacks. This rule change will provide umpires the opportunity to purchase any shade of dark shade and be in compliance.

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bossman72 Tue Oct 07, 2008 09:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 541633)
The Portland Baseball Umpires Association is considering, for the first time ever, to NOT include the 2009 Rules Book in our mandatory registration packets. This will lower the cost to our umpires by $7.95.

We will buy a few books and pass out any "unpublished" changes that have occurred.

We are also considering not forcing purchase of the 2009 Case Book either.

We will, of course, supply Rules and Case Books to all new umpires and anyone that wants to purchase them individually.

Regards,

Rule and case books are included in our state dues. Does your state give you guys anything?

Tim C Tue Oct 07, 2008 09:40pm

Packets
 
Quote:

"Rule and case books are included in our state dues. Does your state give you guys anything?"
All officials in Oregon are required to buy a packet. Each local association can determine what is in the packet. Traditionally Baseball has included only the Rule and Case Book (we have not included the Umpire Manual for several years as we use Oregon Modified Mechanics). We also have never included the "Funny book" visual rule book.

So our "state fees" are simply the cost of parts of the packet.

When you buy the packet you are then covered by insurance. As with most group plans it is "all or none" on the insurance.

The price of the packet is established by what is in it and any additional fees as charged by the local.

SO, the real answer to your post, we get nothing "free" from the OSAA. Our packet fee is just part of their revenue stream to keep them in business.

Regards,

Kevin Finnerty Tue Oct 07, 2008 09:49pm

We just pay the $60 and we get a packet (handbook, rule book, case book, NASO pamphlet), but I never gave any thought to where the rest of the fee goes. It always sounded like a reasonable amount.

bossman72 Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 541849)
All officials in Oregon are required to buy a packet. Each local association can determine what is in the packet. Traditionally Baseball has included only the Rule and Case Book (we have not included the Umpire Manual for several years as we use Oregon Modified Mechanics). We also have never included the "Funny book" visual rule book.

So our "state fees" are simply the cost of parts of the packet.

When you buy the packet you are then covered by insurance. As with most group plans it is "all or none" on the insurance.

The price of the packet is established by what is in it and any additional fees as charged by the local.

SO, the real answer to your post, we get nothing "free" from the OSAA. Our packet fee is just part of their revenue stream to keep them in business.

Regards,

PIAA dues are $30 and we receive Rule and Case books along with insurance coverage.

We then have chapter dues on top of that, which vary between chapters.

JJ Wed Oct 08, 2008 09:28am

Some the fees we pay every year go to pay the state association Rules Interpreters for the meetings they conduct around the state. That's changing a bit in Illinois - they're going to post the annual rules meetings/interps online.
Should be interesting how that works - they're already doing it for several Fall and Winter sports.
Kind of hard to figure how they're going to do that "question and answer" session, and to ask for demonstrations of certain things.

JJ

PeteBooth Wed Oct 08, 2008 09:59am

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 541854)
but I never gave any thought to where the rest of the fee goes. It always sounded like a reasonable amount.


You should have a Treasurer in your association

After our association meeting comes to order the FIRST agenda item is ALWAYS the Treasurers Report which details where all the money is going.

Therefore, in summary you should know where your association money is going.

Pete Booth

PeteBooth Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:06am

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 541633)
The Portland Baseball Umpires Association is considering, for the first time ever, to NOT include the 2009 Rules Book in our mandatory registration packets. This will lower the cost to our umpires by $7.95.

We will buy a few books and pass out any "unpublished" changes that have occurred.

We are also considering not forcing purchase of the 2009 Case Book either.

We will, of course, supply Rules and Case Books to all new umpires and anyone that wants to purchase them individually.

Regards,


Tee if memory serves in a past thread you mentioned that your association was "pushing for" an elimination of umpires checking "bats / hats" before the game begins and put the onus on the managers.

If you can share what's the staus on this issue

Thanks

Pete Booth


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