Instant Replay
 

So no posts on Instant Replay on the Yankees and Rays game??

It took only 2.5 minutes, In the end it looked like they got the call right.

Do you think they're trained to when in doubt, signal fair, let A-rod circle the bases...worst case scenario, he goes up to bat again, versus signaling foul, then awarding him the HR...now he's got to come out and start running the bases again...not to mention, it would take more time.

End of Debate
 

MLB umpires have NEVER had a call overturned on replay. NEVER-EVER They are 100% correct on ALL calls that have been replayed. With that in mind, do we really need replay anymore? The proof is right there in the in the history of replayed calls.:D

I agree 100%!

Dump the replay, it IMHO is the worse thing to hit baseball since the colored balls promoted by a former A's owner or the shorts worn a few years ago by the White Sox's.

The worst part is that A-Rod is the first person to benefit from this stupid replay system.

Since the call on the field stood, he didn't benefit from the replay.

The tragedy with instant-replay as a "get-it-right" remedy overlooks the entire context of the at-bat. The 1-2 pitch preceeding the home run was over the inside-corner, as confirmed by replay. It should have been strike three - and no "home-run" question even comes up! That's IF they want to "get it right".

The answer is not to review more plays, nor pretend we're helping by selecting certain plays to the exclusion of others.

Insufficient evidence to overturn?
 

Here is a link to the Yankees website showing the play.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/media...16587&c_id=nyy

Right-handed batter Alex Rodriguez hit a high fly ball down the left field line. It crossed the home run wall well higher than the top of the foul pole, then hit a stadium wall maybe about 75 feet past the home run wall, and maybe about five or ten feet foul (there is a yellow vertical foul line painted on the stadium wall). A straight line from home to the contact point of course would have been foul, but this ball of course was presumedly hooking. So the third base ump has to make a judgment call about whether the ball was above fair territory when it left the field of play. OBR 7.05(a).

The camera angles were not the best, which would be looking right down the line. Assuming even a soft hook, it is pretty clear that the ball was at least ten feet fair when it passed over the home run wall.

But what if it were closer? What if the ball was within a foot of the foul line when it passed over the fence? Is the calling ump going to think, well, I think it was foul, but I'm going to call fair and let the replay camera make the final call. What if replays are inconclusive? Then the original call would stand. So giving the benefit of the doubt to the home run cannot be correct.

Of course, if this abomination had never entered the game to begin with, we would have the umpire making his best judgment and living with it.

What a concept.

After seeing the replay of that obvious homerun, all I can say is wow. Umpires are going to lose a lot of respect for double checking calls such as these. So much for two centuries of tradition. Give it 50 years and every ball and strike call is going to be appealed to replay systems.

On the positive, I wouldn't mind being a behind the black curtain replay guy. Sit there for 3 hours a night, watch a ballgame, make good money, and maybe be called on to rewind a play once every 81 home games.

[QUOTE=canadaump6]After seeing the replay of that obvious homerun, all I can say is wow. Umpires are going to lose a lot of respect for double checking calls such as these. So much for two centuries of tradition. Give it 50 years and every ball and strike call is going to be appealed to replay systems.

Am I missing something? They got the call right. How is respect lost.As stated earlier, no calls have been reversed yet. Now that should be respected.

Defense manager thought he could buy one...can't hurt to ask for replay, now that it's available.

Replay has no place in baseball. Period.

griff

Consulting the replay system shows that the umpire's were not confident about their call. This looks bad on MLB umpires. It's just like appealing to your partner about any play. The umpire responsible for the call should get it right the first time, and not be persuaded to get a second opinion.

A-Rod's HR stroke
 

Allow those big wireless companies to replace the foul poles with taller cell towers.

So MLB put the replay system into effect...but the umpires can refuse to use it citing..." I got it right"...?

Didn't know that........

So what exactly has to happen to use the replay system? What am I missing

griff

Much like a coach's request that you ask your partner for help, the crew chief decides if the crew wants help.

Thanks..that clears that up...

griff

At the Giants/D-backs game last night (Monday) at Pacific ballpark, a Bengie Molino home run was caught by a fan in the first row of the bleachers. AZ mgr. Bob Melvin wanted crew chief Tim McClellan to get replay help. The crew conferred while the high-definition big screen replayed the catch, after which McClellan decided they did not need help, home run stands. I didn't notice whether any of the crew was watching the replay.

If you didn't notice whether any of the crew were watching the replay, how do you know that McClelland decided they did not need help from the replay? Maybe they watched the replay just like you did and determined that it was truly a home run.

Let me know how this replay thing is working out. I understand that replay has still not overturned a single call. Let's hear it for the umpires! :cool:

So let me get this straight...all 4 umpires decide they don't need a replay...so no replay?

I would bet that if 3 of the 4 said no replay needed...then no replay, right? I know if I'm on a crew and one said " I'm not sure" but the other 3 said "we are sure"..that better be the end of it.

There must be a standard in place. Anyone know for sure how it works?:confused:

griff

As stated earlier, the crew chief decides if it is necessary to use the replay system. I would think the crew chief would take into account the opinions of his partners. Perhaps more than one had a clear view of the play, so no replay was necessary in McClelland's opinion.

Thanks..I missed the stated earlier part

griff

Maybe. I meant only to imply that the crew might have gotten help on whether to go to the MLB war room replay for help, which would be an interesting, perhaps unanticipated, twist on the implementation of the rule.

BTW, after the inning, the umps again conferred, this time between the mound and second base, and little Timmy Lincecum had to shoo the whole crew out of the way to let Molino have his throw down to second. Fun at the ballpark. :)

Do you mean, Little Timmy Who Should Be The Cy Young Winner In The National League Lincecum? I hope he gets to 20 wins, because he's more deserving than Webb or Volquez, and Sabbathia's time with the Tribe won't count in his favor. Lincecum is by far the best pitcher in the NL this year.

Knowing the Giants, they will trade him next year for 3 minor leaguers and a team mascot. :rolleyes:

And I thought the Orioles were the only ones good at getting rid of their tallent.

No contest....all in all the Giants had a good season. 16 rookies on a 25 maan roster...pretty impressive...but they still need someone with power in the lineup......

griff