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njdevs00cup Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:00pm

Beltran Hit by Foul Ball???
 
Did anyone see the play in the Mets v. Phillies game where Carlos Beltran (R3)was hit by the ball, which was ruled foul? U3 called the ball foul and the ball had not reached the bag! Sure enough, Fernando Tatis hits a HR.

realistic Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:07pm

Was Beltran in foul territory?

edhern Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:45pm

U3 made an emphatic foul call. One of the replays showed the PU was in no position near the line to make a good fair/foul call and there was a right handed batter at the plate. I think U3 saw PU did not have a good angle and made a strong call to sell it. The replays were all inconclusive whether Beltran was hit in fair or foul territory.

Rich Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:10am

McClelland strikes again. Even the Mets announcers were talking about how huge a break the call was for the Mets. Watching the replays available, it appeared F5 was standing mostly in fair ground with the ball hitting his right butt cheek while standing on third. No way it was a foul ball when striking him - should've been an out.

Didn't hurt the Phillies ultimately -- the Mets blew a 7-0 lead and lost 8-7 in 13 innings.

mrumpire11 Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:45am

not going to comment on the play since i didn't see it. but wth a runner on third base and less then 2 outs the 1st and 3rd base umpires take the entire line so that the plate umpire can get in a position for a play at the plate.

njdevs00cup Wed Aug 27, 2008 03:24pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
McClelland strikes again. Even the Mets announcers were talking about how huge a break the call was for the Mets. Watching the replays available, it appeared F5 was standing mostly in fair ground with the ball hitting his right butt cheek while standing on third. No way it was a foul ball when striking him - should've been an out.

Didn't hurt the Phillies ultimately -- the Mets blew a 7-0 lead and lost 8-7 in 13 innings.

It was interesting that the Mets announcers pointed out that Beltran was not back to the bag when he was hit. If he's hit while on the bag in fair territory, he's still out!

johnnyg08 Wed Aug 27, 2008 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by njdevs00cup
It was interesting that the Mets announcers pointed out that Beltran was not back to the bag when he was hit. If he's hit while on the bag in fair territory, he's still out!

yes, another big time myth out there...good ol' announcers!

PeteBooth Wed Aug 27, 2008 03:42pm

Quote:

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Didn't hurt the Phillies ultimately -- the Mets blew a 7-0 lead and lost 8-7 in 13 innings.


Rich do not remind me. I stayed up to watch the entire game ( I know you are a Phillies fan - I am a Met fan) The Mets have been playing this way all season long . The bullpen is horrible but the bats "go asleep" after the third / 4th innings.

Another thing I noticed is the position of U2 when David Wright hit a 2 out shot down the right field line and tried to stretch it into a double. U2 was almost in the way. He actually did get tangled up a bit with Wright.

if the Mets do not win tonight with Santana , the Phillies will once again be in the Mets heads down the stretch. Their only salvation is that the Phillies have to to Wrigley for 4 games and that will not be easy.

Pete Booth

mbyron Wed Aug 27, 2008 03:56pm

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Originally Posted by njdevs00cup
It was interesting that the Mets announcers pointed out that Beltran was not back to the bag when he was hit. If he's hit while on the bag in fair territory, he's still out!

Only if the BALL is over fair territory when it hits him. :rolleyes:

Rich Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:12pm

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Originally Posted by njdevs00cup
It was interesting that the Mets announcers pointed out that Beltran was not back to the bag when he was hit. If he's hit while on the bag in fair territory, he's still out!

The Met announcers I listened to seemed to know the rule well as well as why the PU is expected to make that call (runner between umpire and ball).


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