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Jay R Tue Aug 26, 2008 02:06pm

Balk in Sox-Orioles game.
 
Did anyone see the play in the Sox-Orioles game where a batter wanted to call time but it was not granted. The batter stepped out of the battter's box and then came back when time was not granted. The pitcher hesitated and ended up not throwing the ball. The umpire called a balk and R3 scored.

Should the umpire not have killed the play and done a do-over?

umpjim Tue Aug 26, 2008 02:32pm

The batter got back in quickly and there was a delay in the pitcher's reaction so the ump might have not connected the two actions. With a R3 I always suspect shennagins from the batter and would have had a no pitch per this rule comment from MLB.com:

"Rule 6.02(b) Comment: The batter leaves the batter’s box at the risk of having a strike delivered and called, unless he requests the umpire to call “Time.” The batter is not at liberty to step in and out of the batter’s box at will.
Once a batter has taken his position in the batter’s box, he shall not be permitted to step out of the batter’s box in order to use the resin or the pine tar rag, unless there is a delay in the game action or, in the judgment of the umpires, weather conditions warrant an exception.
Umpires will not call “Time” at the request of the batter or any member of his team once the pitcher has started his windup or has come to a set position even though the batter claims “dust in his eyes,” “steamed glasses,” “didn’t get the sign” or for any other cause.
Umpires may grant a hitter’s request for “Time” once he is in the batter’s box, but the umpire should eliminate hitters walking out of the batter’s box without reason. If umpires are not lenient, batters will understand that they are in the batter’s box and they must remain there until the ball is pitched. See Rule 6.02(d).
The following two paragraphs are additional material for Rule 6.02(b) Comment, for Major League play only:
If pitcher delays once the batter is in his box and the umpire feels that the delay is not justified he may allow the batter to step out of the box momentarily.
If after the pitcher starts his windup or comes to a “set position” with a runner on, he does not go through with his pitch because the batter has stepped out of the box, it shall not be called a balk. Both the pitcher and batter have violated a rule and the umpire shall call time and both the batter and pitcher start over from “scratch.”
Rule 6.02
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The following paragraph is additional material for Rule 6.02(b) Comment, for National Association play (in lieu of the additional two paragraphs, above, that apply to Major League play):
If after the pitcher starts his windup or comes to a “set position” with a runner on, he does not go through with his pitch because the batter has stepped out of the box, the umpire shall not call a balk. The umpire shall call an automatic strike if Rule 6.02(d)(1) calls for such sanction."

Thers's also the "any action designed to cause a balk" rule but this post is already too long.

TussAgee11 Tue Aug 26, 2008 02:43pm

My buddy works in the Orioles TV truck - he IM'd me right as this happened to get an explanation. Hey, at least production tries to get Jim Palmer the right info so he doesn't look like an idiot :p

Still haven't seen the play, but after I gave him 6.02b Comment, he replied back that perhaps the batter didn't step all the way out of the box or that he got back in before the pitcher had even started.

zm1283 Tue Aug 26, 2008 03:47pm

In Fed rules I'm almost certain that would not be a balk. It happened in a district game two years ago that I was watching and the PU got it wrong in that game because he didn't know the rule.

Dakota Tue Aug 26, 2008 03:54pm

Was it AJ at bat? :D

Jay R Tue Aug 26, 2008 04:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota
Was it AJ at bat? :D

Good one. :)

It was a RH batter. I didn't pick up who it was. I just saw the highlights on this morning's sportscast.

JJ Wed Aug 27, 2008 06:02pm

I was watching the game and was surprised the umpire called the balk. It seemed obvious to me that all the commotion at home plate (batter starts to step out, doesn't get time from the umpire so he steps back in) is why the pitcher reacted the way he did. But hey, I'm not the MLB umpire who was behind the plate...and he gets the big bucks because he's good at what he does.
It would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall in the umpire's room after the game when they were discussing the call.


JJ


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