Baiting?
 

Do you feel the player was baited here?

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Without knowing what was said, I have no answer for you.

Hey, I've been to that stadium - Myrtle Beach Pelicans, Single A ball.

Who knows what was said. The video doesn't look good, but it is a possibility that the batter said something back to PU that needed to be addressed.

Although, if that was the case, PU could have concealed it a bit better. Perhaps brushing off the plate while chewing him out.

Baiting? No. By the looks of the video (which of course has its limitations), not the best game management IMO.

I watched this clip, and I never saw any words exchanged in a 'heated' manner. Perhaps the batter 'erased' the back line of the batters box while entering the box, and the PU said, "knock it off" and the batter responded 'inappropriately'?? Other than that, I can't answer your question.

Who knows what happened. We may only see the culmination of events here that started earlier in the AB. The PU may have quietly said his piece and was ignored or received an inappropriate reply.

poor quality vid but
 

You can see the batter mouthing words so there probably was cause. Who knows what was said but it probably wasn't, "Nice call John".

:rolleyes:

Don't leave us in suspense any longer. What happened??

He's such a tease.

These college guys..sheeze!!!!!!

Well, he certainly covered that part up by going ballistic. Doesn't "look" like he wanted dumped; although the ramifications of getting dumped may have suddenly occurred to him.

Myrtle Beach...aren't they managed by Rocket? Rocket and I (and my partner) did a 5 minute dance 10 years ago or so.

Glad to see he's still in "A" ball.

Why would the umpire tell the batter he needed to stay in the box immediately following a foul ball?

I have a thick skin, but you can't let your authority be completely undermined by a comment of that type. I don't dump often, but if he says that, I dump him.

Maybe the umpire told him (correctly) to stay in after the first pitch, which was a ball, and the batter made his smart@ss comment after the foul ball. Can't really tell without being on the field.

Once he got dumped he sure didn't act hung over!:D

Except that explanation doesn't seem consistent with what the home plate umpire reportedly told msavakinas.

IMO, he shouldn't have told him to stay in the box after a foul ball. That's not good game management.

yea, he baited him
 

Probably some history here between the two involved, but yes the umpire baited him. No other reason to come out after a foul ball.

And if the player did say what was mentioned above, he deserved to go.


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David

Bait 'em then run 'em was a taught technique at one time.

Well,...if the umpire told him to stay in the box as a result of that mini-dance step, then it seems clear he was baiting the batter.

I don't doubt that this was a carry over from previous activities, but the umpire's game management skills - at this point - don't appear very professional.

I don't see that. Actually, the batter's actions in this snippet seem to me to be completely normal. Of course, I don't know what happened before, or what was said, but there is no reason at all to complain about this particular approach of the batter into the box. Rule 6.02(b) comment doesn't describe a specific choreography that a batter must follow to enter the box, but does require a batter to stay in "once a batter has taken his position in the batter’s box". The batter here takes a normal amount of time to enter the box. Just 15 seconds have elapsed after impact of the foul ball before the batter is in his stance, and the PU is out from behind the plate and remonstrating the batter.

This is a video of one at bat in a baseball game. Where's the other two or three hours of video showing all the good things that PU did? :)

I have no problem with the ejection. Also the Minors changed the rules on walking out of the box. So the umpire from what I know had the right to inform him of this violation. And if the batter cannot learn to use better language or to comply, then he needs to go.

I am tired of umpires/officials always being responsible for the bad behavior of players and coaches. He was doing his job; he does not need that kind of response.

Peace