Drake just got Lou again
 

In the bottom of the 9th, DeRossa made the moronic decision to slide head first into first and was out.

First base coach Matt Sinatro threw his helmet to the ground and charged at Drake screaming and was tossed immediately. Then here comes Lou...gone as well.

Even from 3 different angles, it is impossible to tell if he was out or safe-dust everywhere. You usually do not see a first base coach have a heart attack like that. I wonder what else was going on today...I started watching in the 8th.

Joe In Missouri

rob drake is thorst ump there is derosa was safe matt never fights like that only if bad call was made wait it was not a bad call it wa s the worst call he made rob drake is a dumbass

Nah,
 

I am not sure it gets any better than this . . .

Even money that this is a regular poster trying to hide tracks . . . any takers?

Regards,

Drake Dregg
 

Pulls the quick trigger twice in one year on Lou :mad: , and nobody wants to say this guy shouldn't be working in the show . This guy gives good umpires bad names :o . MLB needs to really look at this guy!! :confused: That is how many this year? Drake just might be out to match his 20+ in a season! Got three from the CUBs, SO FAR.

LOL

This is sad.

Pathetic.

Fess up, which one of you shmucks is it.

My money is on Lorothian trying to make it seem like Lorothian is not alone.

For the non-RATS on this forum:

Every angle they showed was inconclusive at worst...and at best Drake got it right. If this was the NFL the call would NOT be overturned upon further review. Hell, even the B/R did not get up and argue.

The first ejection was totally legit. The first base coach immediately and violently spiked his helmet into the ground and then charged Drake.

Lou came out, Drake gave him a leash, Lou kept going and said the magic words...good-bye.

However, even worse Lou appeared, to me, to bump Gorman (who was trying to be a peacemaker) in an attempt to get closer to Drake. Furthermore, he came back out onto the field after having gone into the dugout.

While I'm not a Bob Watson mind-reader, I'd be willing to bet that there are going to be suspensions as a result of this one. And there should.

And, for what its worth, Drake appeared to keep his cool the whole time...He never appeared to shout and/or scream, and he certainly did not have any body language that showed he was out-of-control. He kept his cool.

From San Diego Steve's favorite website:

"We have gone frame by frame from multiple angles and concluded the batter-runner was out by time... In the 10th inning of the game, Cubs broadcasting station WGN presented a synchronized side-by-side view of two different angles of the play, which clearly showed DeRosa was out), the call was correct."

However, I add that whether Drake got it right or not is irrelevant. Even if he was wrong it does not justify the RAT reactions of the Cub coaching staff.

I say both of the posters putting Drake under the bus are dumb.

Let's see....a poster's title is gocubsgo (that gives something away) and I agree with snagwells about Lorothian

Yes, it's quite obvious that Rob Drake is a dumbass and you are a Rhodes Scholar. Yes, I can see it clearly.


No sarcasm smiley necessary.

On a more serious note, Gerry Davis was hit directly in the face mask by a pitch in the Cubs/Marlins game today and was removed from the game. Anyone hear how he's doing?

I was watching on the Marlins channel and not WGN. They had one angle that showed he was definately out. Good call.

Why would anyone not think this guy is legit? Sounds like a typical Cubs fan to me. My vote is that he is legit.

Joe in Missouri

PS I am still wondering what caused Sinatro to have an aneurysm. It seems weird to see a first base coach go nuts like this...I have not seen one like this in a while.

They do say that the play happened in the 9th inning. In fact they go into great detail about the play, which was called correctly. What happened in the 10th inning was that WGN presented a side-by-side comparison.

RIF.

http://cascreamindude.livejournal.com/

Bob,


The game wrap mentioned that he was taken to the hospital, but he later returned to Wrigley. It didn't sound like a serious injury.


Tim.

Pearls from Lou -


""I went out there actually to get my coach off the field. The only thing I mentioned to the umpire was "Why are you so antagonistic?'"


Can anyone say - "bu11$1t"



Tim.

Drake got te call right.
But is he the Steve Javey of major League baseball?

Drake looks like a goof...too much hair and just a little rumpled. Also, the sunglasses on the hat is a very cheesy look.

Joe in Missouri

I think that's an unfair comparison. Javey has the reputation as a hotheaded, playa-hatin', whistle-happy referee who is generally despised.

Drake has only 4 ejections this year, including the 2 today. Before that, he ejected Ozzie Guillen for a prolonged ball/strike argument. He gave Guillen a long leash before he ran him, as he probably knew he had called the pitch wrong. But he didn't just run him the second he came out. His first one was of course his ejection of Sweet Lou, who, after being warned not to come out by 1st base umpire Chad Fairchild not once, not twice, not three times, but four times, Drake took care of the business that for some reason, Fairchild neglected to do. Doesn't sound like a quick trigger to me.

As for today, wouldn't you run the ex-scrub catcher Sinatro for slamming his helmet on the ground and then charging you? And I'm sure Piniella was just as nice and polite as he is in his Aquafina commercial. Yeah, right.:rolleyes:

Snagwells - johnSandlin & jwwashburn ?????
 

Snagwells - What is “My money is on Lorothian trying to make it seem like Lorothian is not alone.” Supposed to mean?? Since I think the original comment you MIGHT BE referring to was before mine. :confused:

johnSandlin - Where is the “I say both of the posters putting Drake under the bus are dumb.” I DON’T SEE a comment that says anything about putting DRAKE “… under a bus…”. :confused: Maybe send him back where he belongs in the minors, rather than doing “The Show”. And if you agree with Snagwells, then what are you basing your comment on, since Snagwells was BASELESS.

Jwwashburn - “I am still wondering what caused Sinatro to have an aneurysm.” In looking at the replays, it looks like Drake is pulling the trigger for the out before the ball was in the glove. Probably the same thing he saw, and maybe heard out of Drake.

To all - Is that what Drake has been taught? Be quick on the trigger on making calls and throwing coaches and managers? As I never had those teachings while at any of the umpire schools/training that I have attended during my 20 plus years of doing such. It was always - See the play, See the play, make a decision, reply the play in your mind, then MAKE THE CALL. DO NOT Guess the call, especially an out.

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And ignore assistants slamming their helmets on the ground? Good schoolin' you gots there.

I really doubt you're that stupid, but just in case....

I think you two are one and the same. Which comment came first in this thread is of no consequence.

Just in case I wasn't clear enough, I'll write it slower and in big bright letters:

I think you two are one and the same.

Lorothian,

Obviously MLB feels Drake is doing his job and doing it right, otherwise he would be back in the minors or released from his umpiring duties.

Gentlemen,

I saw the play, and I think that Drake made a great call. He should have thrown both guys out, you don't go out there like a little baby and argue something that close. It is a judgment call. I don't need a replay telling me that I'm wrong, it is so close that a human has to trust what he sees and calls it. Sometimes I think fans might be happier with cameras calling the game and robots calling the strike zone. Good call, Rob Drake. Lou, he's not an antagonist (nor do I think he has a vendetta), you are just a bitter old man whose team will never win the World Series. I'm glad I found this site---I umpire for ages 12-18 and I am a patched umpire.

Best,
-Ross

P.S. Is there a way that I could email or get in contact with Mr. Drake? His email is no longer working and he doesn't frequent this board often. Thanks in advance.

Umpire school? It is to laugh.

Steve Javie is a well respected NBA official and routinely earns finals assignments. Yes, Steve was once known to have a quick trigger, but not now. Are you saying that Drake should, and does, routinely earn trips to the WS?

Steve Javey also earned a MiLB evaluation full of "5's".

I don't think there are any posters on this board who can claim that.

(And if I have to explain what a "5" is on a MiLB evaluation, or the difficulty of earning one, then you really don't know what you are talking about)

Let me guess. You're a Sox Fan.

In the words of Bill Haller to Earl Weaver,

"You run yourself".

Same applies here. Drake didn't get anybody. They got themselves.

Didn't see the play. I agree first base coach has got to go. If indeed Lou said "you're antaganistic" not sure thats a reason to eject. Also the first time he ejected Lou in my opinion he had no business sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong. If his partner wanted to eject I'm sure he would have done it.

I understand that Drake is a "fill in" for guys on vacation etc. Perhaps he's trying a little to hard to show he belongs. He does seem to have a lot of ejections.

"You're antagonistic."

Personal. Automatic. Easy.

Drake only has 4 ejections, which is around average among umpires at this stage of the season.

When Piniella (if this is really what he said:rolleyes: ), said, "you're" followed by anything negative, that is called "getting personal," and always results in an ejection. "You're antagonistic" would qualify as a character assassination in my opinion.

Piniella had been arguing a check-swing call that was originally Drake's call of ball. Fairchild wrongly confirmed the ball call. So since it was Drake's bad call to start with, he probably felt that he needed to do the ejection, and not put it on Fairchild's shoulders. Just my guess.

Who cares? Ozzie Guillen got tossed and Drake was right? What are you trying to prove here?

Actually, in this case, Ozzie was right but got tossed anyway for a prolonged argument over balls and strikes. Drake probably allowed him to vent a little longer than usual because it was a bad call.

Okay, even if Ozzie was right, he was giving Drake crap over balls and strikes. You should never be allowed to argue those as they are a judgment call. I don't let coaches yell at me, I toss them. They interrupt my game and disrespect me, so why bother keeping them around, especially if it is a judgment call?

I have had discussions with coach's like this. One in particular was very 'personal', but we did it very quietly. This was after a pitching change, I was updated the line-up card, the coach was on the foul line and we really told each other what we thought. He thought I was stinking up the joint and I was tired of his moaning and groaning over every pitch. We had it out, I focused more the rest of the game and he shut up.

Search "Guillen" under the same link that was provided earlier for the Gerry Davis injury. You can read Drake's lips saying "Go back to the dugout now" a few times before Ozzie gets really animated and gets tossed.

Sometimes things happen and the umpires have to deal with them. This is what happened with both of Rob's ejections (Piniella #2 and Guillen). Even if Rob missed the pitch, he still gave Ozzie a long enough leash.

The next night the sports guys on WGN radio in Chicago said the Drake got "all three of the calls right". Not sure which 3 they were talking about, but one would think that if Lou and the helmet thrower watched the videos THEY would realize Rob got them right, and MAYBE figure he wasn't so bad after all, and HOPEFULLY would gain a little more respect for him.
I was also very impressed with Drake's lack of emotion in dealing with the arrows being shot at him...

JJ

It looks like he got the call at first right.

I think his look has a lot to do with some lack of respect he might be getting. Too much hair is not good and those sunglasses on the hat make him look like a smitty.

Joe in Missouri

He was out.
What, you get your opinion from Kasper and Brenly? They didn't realize umpires wear sunglasses on the field -- for the last decade. (Yes, that was the commentary in the 7th inning.):rolleyes:

I'll agree with that. He doesn't look the part.

Drake had his shirt unbuttoned and wasn't even wearing a t-shirt underneath. He looked like some doofus who just got off the golf course.......:(

Ejections were righteous though. Sinatro was gone the second that helmet hit the ground. Don't know what Piniella said, but he wasn't going to be long storming out the dugout across the field to protect his coach. DeRosa knew he was out and his actions told as much. If not, replays left no doubt Drake was right.

can anyone post a clip of the ejections? i was watching the game, saw the play, and they showed one great angle of his hand being about 1-2 feet from the bag when the ball was caught. I would just like to watch the clips again... IMO Sinatro and Pinella earned em

I just watched Drake call the plate in the Angels-Red Sox game, and he's a below average umpire. He missed quite a few strikes, and in a handful of incidents, called follow-up pitches strikes right after balling the same pitch. Terrible zone.

He's also not a guy who carries an aire of authority, so I can see why he might have a lot of guys on his back all the time.

Someone is the worst ump in the bigs. I have not seen him that many times so, I don't know if he is any good, or not. It looks like he got this call right, though.

I do know that he looks like an Asst Mgr at Burger King. One way to not be taken seriously is for him to keep looking like that. Sunglasses on the hat...Oy Vey.

Joe in Missouri

I "hang" mine off my belt at the small of my back.

I would eat them before I would consider putting them on my hat.

Joe In Missouri

May God have mercy upon your eternal soul if you are not joking.

Joe In Missouri

Do they have sun in Missouri?

Well, I always stuck them in my front pocket and hoped they didn't poke me in the nads.:eek:

I don't care for the preppy look of glasses on the hat. IMO it looks horsesh!t.

Pro umpires can run into the dressing room between innings and put their sunglasses away. Most of us don't have that option available.

[QUOTE=jwwashburn]I would eat them before I would consider putting them on my hat.

MMMMMMM....unexplained plastic.

Thanks. I am not.

I usually buy my gray Mr. Umpire Trousers from Honig's. They come equipped with pockets. I have found that I can put my sunglasses in my pocket if I do not want to wear them.

Now, I quit spending more than three bucks on sunglasses before Kevin Seitzer was the next George Brett...so, if they break in my pocket, no big deal. I also have never worn them behind the plate.

The President of the Fred Kendall Fan Club asked me to elaborate on my sunglasses habits so, I have obliged.

Joe in Missouri

PS REI...why not put the sunglasses in your ball bag-that way they will be handy whether you are at the dish or on the bases?

Great idea! Thanks!!! :rolleyes:

Gee, first Nate Colbert and then Fred Kendall...Mr. Peabody and Sherman must have set the Wayback Machine for 1969 or 70.:cool:

Randy Jones and Steve Arlin were my guys!

Do not ever forget ENZO! http://www.clubdecoleccionistas.com/...dios/foto3.jpg

I love those Uniforms!

That someone isn't Drake. It is C.B. Bucknor. I've worked with an umpire whose son umpired in the big leagues. He said C.B. is among the worst he's ever worked with.

Any particular reason or just jumping on the SI player poll's bandwagon?

I have a hard time imagining an umpire could make it to the show and be "among the worst" any particular umpire has ever worked with.

Depending on the investment cost, that could be an expensive snack.:D

I once talked to a friend's brother's cousin who once knew a player who talked to a guy in the bigs who thought someone was wrong on the Internets.

I saw Carlton Fisk eatin a ham sammich in Charlotte NC and got his autograph...He said I would be in the Major Leagues one day if I put my mind to it-that proves that all catchers are liars.

Let's not forget the chump I taunted from the two dollar seats.

http://i21.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/00/cb/5a34_1.JPG

We even unfurled a banner that read "Smash your balls, against the walls, Larry Stahl". Gee, he was awful. And yes I was there when Preston Gomez pulled the plug on the no-hitter. But, hey, we had the Chicken, and the Dodgers and Jigantes didn't.

Tim Timmons was a busy boy yesterday. He got himself 5 ejections! Way to go, Tim!!!

Two for Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and White Sox pitcher DJ Carrasco for fighting, one for Ozzie Guillen for being his usual jerk self by arguing the fighting ejection, and two more for Royals pitcher Zack Greinke and Manager Trey Hillman for throwing at a batter.

All in all, a pretty good day at the ballyard!

Can't be that good a day when your crew chief had to issue an apology for wrongfully throwing the pitcher....

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mario...8ozzie.article

Still a good day. I don't know why umpires these days feel they have to go around apologizing all the time. Timmons made a judgment call, so what's to apologize for anyway? Ozzie went nuts and earned his ejection, because as much as I love the Sox, Ozzie is and Ozzhole.

REI...why not put the sunglasses in your ball bag-that way they will be handy whether you are at the dish or on the bases?
Yes, very handy for those who wear a ball bag on the bases.

Yes. Wear your ball bag while working the bases. That's a nice look. Don't forget your between inning snacks too.

You mean to tell me that you didn't recognize sarcasm when it was staring you in the face?:confused: