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jkumpire Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:32pm

Question for Plate guys
 
Guys in my area must have a communicable disease these days, since everyone from College on down has at least two or three kids who are right on top of the plate.

I have no slot at all to work with on these guys, and it is frustrating. then F2 sets up for an inside corner pitch, and I'm looking over F2's head or through BR's hands.

How do you guys deal with the problem? I will use a Davis stance, but I am old school and I prefer heel/toe in the slot. Does anyone else have this problem where you work?

BigUmp56 Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:48pm

I think we've all been in this situation many times. The best advice I can give you that, works for me, is to move up and back when a catcher takes away your view from the slot.


Tim.

UmpJM Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:22pm

jkumpire,

I concur with Tim. "Up and back" when you get "squeezed" out of the slot working H-T-H-T. Try it. You'll like it.

JM

Steven Tyler Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:25pm

By up and back, you mean higher and further back right?

UmpJM Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:45pm

Steven,

Zackly!

JM

bobbybanaduck Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:15am

open question, not just for the OP...is your definition of the slot the same as the umpire school definition of the slot?

BigUmp56 Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
By up and back, you mean higher and further back right?

Yea, and it usually won't be huge adjustment that you'll have to make.


Tim.

Rags 11 Tue Jul 22, 2008 05:52am

Slot defined???
 
bobbybanaduck

open question, not just for the OP...is your definition of the slot the same as the umpire school definition of the slot?


BBD:

Slot: The area between the batter and the catcher. The entire plate (outside corner) should be visible. PU's head height shouldn't dip below F2's head.

That being said, since the Academy may one day be my mid-life crisis indulgence, I'd like to hear the pro school version.

Thanks,
AR

DG Tue Jul 22, 2008 09:52pm

I tell the catcher he is crowding the plate and I can't see it so I will call the pitches based on where I think it is. They generally back off when they hear that. Doesn't matter much though, because I do know where it is.

griff901c Wed Jul 23, 2008 06:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG
I tell the catcher he is crowding the plate and I can't see it so I will call the pitches based on where I think it is. They generally back off when they hear that. Doesn't matter much though, because I do know where it is.

Really? What do you tell the guy who is 6'2" and just sets up big with runners on and stolen base situation? If you can't see it how do you know where it is? Is this the ole 'sounded like a strike' drill?
Just curious...

griff

DG Wed Jul 23, 2008 08:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by griff901c
Really? What do you tell the guy who is 6'2" and just sets up big with runners on and stolen base situation? If you can't see it how do you know where it is? Is this the ole 'sounded like a strike' drill?
Just curious...

griff

"Sets up big?" Is that another way of saying he is crowding the plate? I already told him he is crowding the plate so if he keeps doing it I just call it where I think the plate is. It hasn't moved since I arrived at the park, so I know where it is. If the pitcher has any velocity on his pitches at all the extra 3 feet he gets by crowding the plate is meaningless.

BigUmp56 Sun Jul 27, 2008 04:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poosey
I am generous to the inside pitch.

How much so?

Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:25am

It was non-descriptive, vague and generally evasive in nature.

bob jenkins Mon Jul 28, 2008 07:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poosey
I am generous to the inside pitch.

This is generally a good idea.

Too many umpires (imo) describe their strike zone as something like "I give nothing in the inside, but 2 balls on the outside." This leads to batters crowdng the plate and more hit batters (on which the umpire must decide if teh batter is "getting out of the way.").

Instead, make the zone 1 ball inside and 1 ball outside (or so). It's the same width, but you'll have fewer problems.

bob jenkins Tue Jul 29, 2008 08:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poosey
Do you mean one extra ball wide or one ball wide being the one that crosses the black?

Either. Whatever "your" zone is, it should be the same inside and outside, imo.


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