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BigUmp56 Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:32am

Odalis Perez Balk Calls.........
 
I think his own statements shows that he hasn't a clue...........

"I went towards home plate and then I threw over," Perez said, describing what Hernandez said he did. "I've been doing the same thing [all year], and he called it. I don't know what it is [he has] against me, and I don't like that. I hate that. I lost the game, I hate that so bad."


Here's a link for those of you that didn't see it.

Balk Call

Tim.

ozzy6900 Wed Jul 09, 2008 05:21am

His communication skills are just as bad as his pick-off mechanics! Excellent balk call and a good ejection!

kcg NC2Ablu Wed Jul 09, 2008 05:42am

good balk call ... if every other word wasnt the f-bomb maybe he wouldnt get ejected so quickly....good job by U! chad fairchild to get down there and get perez out of there

BigTex Wed Jul 09, 2008 08:39am

I did not know that you can't argue a balk call. I guess I have missed some ejections.:D

bob jenkins Wed Jul 09, 2008 08:46am

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Originally Posted by BigTex
I did not know that you can't argue a balk call. I guess I have missed some ejections.:D

You can't argue a "no step" balk. The umpire will indicate that's the reason for the balk and the team is supposed to STFU.

BigTex Wed Jul 09, 2008 09:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
You can't argue a "no step" balk. The umpire will indicate that's the reason for the balk and the team is supposed to STFU.

I am not aware of that. Can you please provide a reference?

bob jenkins Wed Jul 09, 2008 09:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigTex
I am not aware of that. Can you please provide a reference?

I seem to recall it being in MLBUM.

Four-Oh Wed Jul 09, 2008 09:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I seem to recall it being in MLBUM.

I don't have my book with me, but I think it was cited in J/R as well.

MrUmpire Wed Jul 09, 2008 09:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I seem to recall it being in MLBUM.

One of our resident former Minor Leaguers could provide more information, but I believe managers are entitled to an explanation of a balk, but they may not argue the balk.

BigUmp56 Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUmpire
One of our resident former Minor Leaguers could provide more information, but I believe managers are entitled to an explanation of a balk...........

According to the MLBUM they are. Or at least they are for balks other than "step" balks.


MLBUM


A manager may come out and question the reason for a balk call (other than a step balk) and shall not be ejected for his visit to learn why the balk was called. He may be ejected if he argues the call after explanation.


Tim.

JJ Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:46am

I watched the video several times and I couldn't see a balk. Stepped toward first, then threw there. Guess I had to be behind the plate...
Of course, I didn't have any problem with the ejection :p

JJ

Emperor Ump Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:50am

This pretty much follows the lines of everything else, a coach can (and IMO should) be given an explanation if he asks, but to continue beyond that explanation he is in risky territory.

And no this doesn't apply to explaining balls & strikes.

Maz17 Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:11pm

Re:
 
All I can say is AWESOME balk call. Got them both right.

johnnyg08 Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:28pm

yep, that's a tough call to make...and to me, he got it right...that's why they earn the big bucks.

shickenbottom Wed Jul 09, 2008 02:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ
I watched the video several times and I couldn't see a balk. Stepped toward first, then threw there. Guess I had to be behind the plate...
Of course, I didn't have any problem with the ejection :p

JJ

JJ, ask youself which direction did the Pitcher step toward. What I see from the Video is that he stepped more toward home than toward 1st. Distance was fine, however direction was the key and this is judgement.


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