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swkansasref33 Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:32pm

Urgent!!!
 
I am umpiring a baseball tournament this weekend in SW Kansas, Garden City to be exact. I have an off game, so I am watching the game being played. Offensive teams catcher steps into box, sweeps(kicks) dirt from back of box all the way thru the box with foot. PU calls batter out for "kicking the box." :confused: :eek: he was telling us in the lockerroom about the call, and says it is in the rule book. Anyone heard of the rule? If so, where can I find it?

swkansasref33 Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:43pm

haha... we have a new tournament director, and we have some terrible umpires

BigUmp56 Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman
Oh it in the book alright...............NOT!!! That guy is on crack.

What's wrong with you, Chris. You're experienced enough to know perfectly well that this is indeed in the rule book. Here, I have a link to prove it to you.




OCB Rules


Tim.

swkansasref33 Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:46pm

Big, do you have another way to get to that link?

BigUmp56 Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by swkansasref33
Big, do you have another way to get to that link?

I just re-worked the link. Try it now.........


Tim.

swkansasref33 Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:56pm

lol... good one man

BigUmp56 Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by swkansasref33
lol... good one man

1.2 has always been my favorite.


Tim.

justanotherblue Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:19am

Urgent indeed!! Get that man a rule book, that is if he can read. And there are those that wonder how myths get started?:(

jicecone Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:13am

And that is the exact reason why I always carried my books in the car and had access to them, and studied them.

Just in case Mr. Knowitall wanted to quote me the rulebook. I just made it easier for him and said heres the book, show me.

Uh Duh, well I thought it said something like that somewhere??????!!!!!!!

aceholleran Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:31am

Saw another d-bag like this once. LL 12 y. o. F1 had a sweeping follow-through (on every pitch) that brought his glove close to the ground. PU shouts at him "If you put dirt on the ball one more time, you're done!"

Ace

BigUmp56 Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceholleran
Saw another d-bag like this once. LL 12 y. o. F1 had a sweeping follow-through (on every pitch) that brought his glove close to the ground. PU shouts at him "If you put dirt on the ball one more time, you're done!"

Ace

Was the PU having problems all day with dirty balls?


Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Jul 06, 2008 02:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman
Oh it in the book alright...............NOT!!! That guy is on crack.

Please don't disparage crack smokers like this. Crack would NEVER cause someone to believe that there was such a rule. One would need much stronger drugs than that!:eek:

RPatrino Sun Jul 06, 2008 03:15pm

How about these little gems:

- If you guys don't stay in the dugout I'm gonna call the batter out
- BU to PU, "Call a strike on the batter, the on-deck hitter is not in the circle"
- Coach, if you are gonna warm up the pitcher you better have a cup on!!..

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Jul 06, 2008 04:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPatrino
How about these little gems:
- Coach, if you are gonna warm up the pitcher you better have a cup on!!..


Wait a minute. The coach must wear a cup UNELSS his wife has told him that he can warm up the pitcher WITHOUT wearing a cup instead of getting a vasectomy. :D

MTD, Sr.

Julio Caliente Mon Jul 07, 2008 08:26am

Actually it is a rule that if a batter intentinally removes one of the lines of the batters box it is an automatic stike..........


in fast pitch softball.

NFHS 7-2-1(i)
A strike is called to th ebatter when:
i. when a member of the offensive team intentionally removes a line




Not that it matters in this situation because the umpire was 100% wrong, but maybe he just got his rules confused if he calls both sports.

swkansasref33 Tue Jul 08, 2008 05:52pm

so, there is no where in the baseball rule book that anyone has found this rule? the site director and his son boht told me the rule exists in the BASEBALL rule book... i have never heard of it, and neither has anyone i know that does baseball..i have asked many collegiate and hs level guys, and no one knows where he got it from... very puzzling..

RPatrino Tue Jul 08, 2008 05:57pm

First, what does "kicking the box" mean? Do you mean erasing lines? Like Julio said above, there is a FED softball rule that prohibits this. This particular violation seems to really get the softball guys panties in a wad.

waltjp Tue Jul 08, 2008 06:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPatrino
First, what does "kicking the box" mean? Do you mean erasing lines? Like Julio said above, there is a FED softball rule that prohibits this. This particular violation seems to really get the softball guys panties in a wad.

Funny thing is in softball it's the line at the front of the box that's the concern. The LH slap hitters want that extra foot or so when starting for first base.

RPatrino Wed Jul 09, 2008 09:29am

I did one softball game this season and I NEVER once saw that happen!! LOL

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:44am

I think someone needs to get kicked in the box for this one.

RPatrino Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:19am

Coach, you better have your cup on!!!

Andy Wed Jul 09, 2008 03:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPatrino
"
- Coach, if you are gonna warm up the pitcher you better have a cup on!!..

Exactly who is going to check and validate this rule???????

NOT ME!!!!!

RPatrino Wed Jul 09, 2008 06:07pm

We can always make one of the 'younger' guys do it. Any volunteers?


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