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umpjim Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:39pm

carlos lee breaks up DP
 
Posted elsewhere also. What didn't I see in the live action that does not make this Int.? "Anybody see the live action of Carlos lee breaking up a DP with no Int. called. I just saw a picture in the paper where he caught the base with the foot as he grabbed the SS leg. The SS was inside by about 5'. Definitely had a foot touching the base but the arm action would have me calling Int. But HTBT. Link to pic: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/photos...meId=280621130
Maybe it's just MLB.

BigUmp56 Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:43pm

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apph...4460ddf71e.jpg


I'd have a hard time not calling INT here as well.


Tim.

mbyron Mon Jun 23, 2008 06:56am

I suspect that the 2B umpire was old school. I've seen less than this called in recent years in MLB.

mattmets Mon Jun 23, 2008 08:33am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
I suspect that the 2B umpire was old school. I've seen less than this called in recent years in MLB.

U2 was Alfonso Marquez, so not exactly a 30-year vet. Even if the play happened "right around" the bag, wouldn't the takeout at the knee be enough for INT if if impaired the throw?

JRutledge Mon Jun 23, 2008 08:37am

It looks like he is breaking up more than a double play. ;)

Peace

ozzy6900 Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:42am

You are all complaining about no INF call in a MLB game. I am not going to comment that the call was not made as MLB does what MLB does. I only hope that if you are officiating at the youth, HS or NCAA level, and see this happen, you come up right away with the INF call!

JRutledge Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:07pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
You are all complaining about no INF call in a MLB game. I am not going to comment that the call was not made as MLB does what MLB does. I only hope that if you are officiating at the youth, HS or NCAA level, and see this happen, you come up right away with the INF call!

Keep in mind that the MLB Rule is no where near the NF or NCAA Rule. This would be a no-brainer at the NF and NCAA Rules set and philosophy as to what should and should not be called.

Peace

mbyron Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
Keep in mind that the MLB Rule is no where near the NF or NCAA Rule. This would be a no-brainer at the NF and NCAA Rules set and philosophy as to what should and should not be called.

Not true: the rules are similar; the enforcement is radically different. Though, as I've said, I've seen MLB call INT most strictly of late.

danreeves1973 Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:22pm

It's INT and borderline sexual harassment judging by the pic. :D

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
It looks like he is breaking up more than a double play. ;)

Peace

Yeah, it looks like he's breaking up a matched set of castinets!:p

JRutledge Mon Jun 23, 2008 01:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
Not true: the rules are similar; the enforcement is radically different. Though, as I've said, I've seen MLB call INT most strictly of late.

I should have said the rules are not the same. You can have a runner do a lot more to take out a fielder in OBR than you can ever have in NF or NCAA. Even NCAA allows for a runner to go directly into a base and take out a runner if they are standing behind or on top of a base. And the fact you said enforcement is radically different, also illustrates my original point as well.

Peace

waltjp Mon Jun 23, 2008 03:08pm

What you can't tell from the photo is that Lee hopped up after his slide and complained that Iwamura should be ejected for not wearing a cup!

greymule Mon Jun 23, 2008 04:21pm

http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/191...2776267_rs.jpg

I'll re-post this non-call from the World Series of 1948.

zebra2955 Mon Jun 23, 2008 04:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by greymule
http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/191...2776267_rs.jpg

I'll re-post this non-call from the World Series of 1948.


There is nothing wrong with that slide its the camera angle

ROFLMAO

jdmara Tue Jun 24, 2008 09:18am

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Originally Posted by zebra2955
There is nothing wrong with that slide its the camera angle

ROFLMAO

Like every call in baseball, the best angle is from the dugout or the stands. Umpires don't have a shot in heck to get the call right.

-Josh


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