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voiceoflg Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteBooth
What 140 years of tradition

That Statement went "out the window" with the following:

1. Advent of DH
2. Lowering of pitching mound
3. Divisonal Playoff Format (BTW baseball is talking about adding another wild card team)
4. Inter-League Play
5. 6 / 7 innings being a Quality Start
6. Smaller Ball-parks

Forget about the so called Tradition of baseball

There will still be plenty of arguments

Pete Booth

You forgot about lights, artificial turf & domes/retractable roofs. Baseball was just fine without them. Maybe the uber-purists would like to see baseball go back to only day games.

mbyron Mon Jun 02, 2008 01:26pm

As a mentor of mine once remarked, a tradition is partly constituted by disputes about what constitutes the tradition.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteBooth
What 140 years of tradition

That Statement went "out the window" with the following:

1. Advent of DH
2. Lowering of pitching mound
3. Divisonal Playoff Format (BTW baseball is talking about adding another wild card team)
4. Inter-League Play
5. 6 / 7 innings being a Quality Start
6. Smaller Ball-parks

Forget about the so called Tradition of baseball

There will still be plenty of arguments

Pete Booth

Okay, but it's still horsesh!t. Any more arguments?

I was speaking of the 140 years of tradition of NOT having replay in baseball, BTW.

umpduck11 Tue Jun 03, 2008 05:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Okay, but it's still horsesh!t. Any more arguments?

I was speaking of the 140 years of tradition of NOT having replay in baseball, BTW.

The camera equipment back then was quite crappy...... :p

LakeErieUmp Tue Jun 03, 2008 05:37pm

Yeah, those TV cameras in 1888 weren't HD!

UMP25 Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I agree with both of those points. And, baseball is last because the real impetus for change comes from gambling, and less is wagered on any individual baseball game than on football or basketball.

That might be because there are so many MLB games on a daily basis than in any of the other sports, Bob.

As far as IR goes, I'm one of the staunchest traditionalists around, but I'm also a realist. Seeing something like 8 or more of these screwed up home run/foul/ground rule double calls in a 7-day span alone last month, I've come to accept, possible even advocate, the use of IR on a very limited basis, that being for these types of calls only.

lawump Thu Jun 05, 2008 02:51pm

"When I started, the game was played by nine tough competitors on grass, in graceful ball parks. But while I was trying to answer the daily Quiz-O-Gram on the exploding scoreboard, a revolution was taking place around me. By the time I finished, there were ten men on each side, the game was played indoors on plastic, and I had to spend half my time watching out for a man dressed in a chicken suit who kept trying to kiss me."

--Ron Luciano, MLB umpire 1968-1980

JJ Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:40am

Hmmm....spend a bazillion dollars for instant replay cameras and equipment AND add one replay official at each site, or put another umpire under each foul pole. I'm for the working man - use 6-man crews!

JJ

UMP25 Fri Jun 06, 2008 08:42am

That didn't seem to help Richie Garcia during the 1996 post-season when he blew the home run/spectator interference call in Yankee Stadium, John. ;)

LMan Mon Jun 09, 2008 09:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
As a mentor of mine once remarked, a tradition is partly constituted by disputes about what constitutes the tradition.

I dispute that definition.

LakeErieUmp Tue Jun 10, 2008 02:57pm

We could always go WAY back and put the umpire in a high chair in the stands!

ozzy6900 Tue Jun 10, 2008 06:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeErieUmp
We could always go WAY back and put the umpire in a high chair in the stands!

Actually, we could put him in the high chair about 20 feet to the side as in the old days. Top hat and tails, beer in hand and a cigar to complete the ensemble!

LakeErieUmp Tue Jun 10, 2008 07:05pm

Beer and cigar are old days? Oops, I better clean out my ball bag!

David B Fri Jun 13, 2008 08:13pm

Maybe sooner than later
 
Just noted on ESPN.com that they are looking at replay for home runs for this postseason instead of waiting for next year.

Interesting poll where 23 percent say they want a challenge system ... ::(
Of course there is no way to implement something like that to baseball, but with today\'s society, who knows ...

Thansk
David


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