Gary Cederstrom - Padres vs. Cardinals
 

I couldnt believe this...what is that around his neck? Looks like a dog collar.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/photo?sl...ali115&prov=ap

hes wearing a hockey mask, so it only makes sense to wear the hockey throat protector extension.

hockey side note: i just found out the other day that hockey playoffs are still going on. who knew?

I did.... :eek:

That is a first time seeing that for me. It's probably in reaction to the incident earlier this year with the umpire taking a pitch off the neck :(

-Josh

Seeing the ump get knocked out earlier this season has really gotten me to thinking about looking into a hockey style. Also i took my first in the throat below my mask this year, probably more of a motivator.

My question is would the hockey style offer more protection on the lower jaw, side of throat area and would the extended throat protector be needed?

I wonder if any of the powers that be have, in a weak moment, contemplated what umpiring would've been like had the balloon protector won.

EDITED to add: I know it wouldn't eliminate all the head injuries, but the gap between the bottom of the mask and the top of the chest protector would be eliminated. Also, there's no reason a balloon umpire would have to work over top the catcher, as in the old AL days. An umpire could just as easily be in the slot with the protector using a wide stance to get the same height.

I think base coaches should be required to wear the raft. Its a safety issue.

The groundhog saw his shadow, so six more weeks of hockey !

we should just put a fully enclosed fence around the coaches boxes. safety first

In the 46 years of umpiring, I have used the "current" style of equipment. I have been hit numerous times and it does not matter what type of gear you use. I currently wear the helmet style mask. I think it gives better support, but it will not stop injuries. I have lost teeth using the older style mask. So far I have not been as seriously hurt.

I switched to the hockey style a few years back. I would never go back to a regular mask. It is longer on the throat. Better vision, and any hit just glances off.

None of those are issues with any regular style mask I've ever worn.

Well, as my old drill sergeant used to say, "Young Stud," when you have umpired as long as Charlie J has, let us know if you still feel the same way. You may be the best umpire in Naperville, but you are still relatively inexperienced as compared to most of us here, so you really haven't "seen it all" yet.

I too have thought about going with the hockey style mask. It seems like once or twice a year, for some reason, I'll turn my head ever so slightly at a pitch that is fouled back near my head. I know it's a bad habit and it rarely happens, but it only takes one accident for a serious injury to occur.

Well, Steve, I've been doing this for 30 years, and I wear the traditional mask. In fact, I use the New View mask, but the pads are the wraparound ones, which DO make a big difference.

Only days after putting those pads on my mask, I took a direct hit. Pitcher threw a heater directly at my mask. Catcher didn't even touch it and it slammed in to me hard. No pain, nothing. Those pads absorbed the hit.

i dont think you read my post correctly/at all.

And I notice tonight in the Boston/Seattle game he isn't wearing it.

Uh, yeah I did/did.

"None of those are issues with any regular style mask I've ever worn."

Where in that small sentence did I say I have umpired for a long duration, pretended that I'm the best umpire in the city, or thought that I've "seen it all"? I'm pretty sure I just said that none of those are issues with any regular style mask I've ever worn.

First, my comment was concerning a fairly young umpire pontificating on all of his "experience," as though what he stated were some kind of empirical evidence of fact. Mostly just getting a rise out of him, as he is one cool customer ;) . I was not taking any side in the debate. I have used both styles of mask, and have found advantages and disadvantages with each.

Second, just out of curiosity, would the mask with the wrap-around pads help if you took one to the dome a la Jerry Crawford? Score one point for the hockey mask.

Brian, it's never "what you say" it's "how you say it." Your posts always seem to have a certain tone to them that is readily apparent to most people. I'm basically just giving you a hard time.

That wouldn't have happened to me for two reasons: (1) I use the Davis system and am not anywhere close as Jerry was, and (2) he turned his head to the point where he rather caused himself to get nailed.

No, the hockey mask won't prevent all injuries. I had a ball hit my shoulder and then the back of my jaw. That smarted more than a bit. But it is far more protective then the standard mask. I believe that if the ump in the Dodger's game had been wearing one, he would have had a much better outcome. Last year, I actually had a ball stick onto one the bars (kept it--the ding on the ball is impressive) and I barely even felt the hit. I wholeheartedly endorse using the helmet.

My buddy in CA. was working a D-1 game a couple weeks ago and took a foul ball to the HSM. The mask shattered right there.

Time to ditch the goalie mask.

If you work as close as Jerry does, it is bound to happen. Score one for proper plate positioning.