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kylejt Wed Apr 16, 2008 09:39pm

Is Tim McClelland done?
 
I'm watching the Yanks v. Sox, and Tim is even slower than ever. Once a player favorite, he is no longer. I mean he just now called Matt Holliday safe at home.

The ring up of ManRam was just awful. Manny tossed his bat, and was three steps down the line before Tim fired up the chainsaw. It's one thing to have timing, but quite another to be in a coma.

Is he OK?

orangeump Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:45am

I am unclear as to how his "bad back" would affect his timing.

he must have had this bad back for the last 15 years then.

He is a very good umpire and a great guy, he will certainly hang it up when the time is right. I have a hard time believing someone of his stature will hang around for 20 more years barely being able to run, etc.

kylejt Thu Apr 17, 2008 01:16am

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Originally Posted by orangeump
I am unclear as to how his "bad back" would affect his timing.

he must have had this bad back for the last 15 years then.

If your back is hurting, you don't want to make any sudden movements. Tim is moving very slowly lately. His switch from the knee was probably about five years ago, because it was about the same time I switched too. He was always a model for me for stance and timing. No longer. It's a shame because I tried to keep my mechanics like his for such a long time. Plus you can't even hear him any more.

After that Padres/Rockies game last year, and the subsequent interviews, I don't think he's as sharp as he needs to be. But who's going to tell him?

UMP25 Thu Apr 17, 2008 09:22am

Anything related to the back (spine, neck, etc.) can be a serious issue. This is one reason why Larry Poncino, currently on medical leave, will almost certainly never be back on the field. He was told that to go back behind the plate would risk paralysis or possibly death with the injury he sustained. I doubt anyone would risk that.

FredFan7 Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
Anything related to the back (spine, neck, etc.) can be a serious issue. This is one reason why Larry Poncino, currently on medical leave, will almost certainly never be back on the field. He was told that to go back behind the plate would risk paralysis or possibly death with the injury he sustained. I doubt anyone would risk that.

Did Mr. Poncino get injured on the field? If so, how?

SanDiegoSteve Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:56am

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Originally Posted by kylejt
I'm watching the Yanks v. Sox, and Tim is even slower than ever. Once a player favorite, he is no longer. I mean he just now called Matt Holliday safe at home.

I'm still waiting for Matt Holliday to touch home plate, as is the rest of the baseball world.:rolleyes:

SanDiegoSteve Fri Apr 18, 2008 01:02am

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Originally Posted by orangeump
I am unclear as to how his "bad back" would affect his timing.

he must have had this bad back for the last 15 years then.

He is a very good umpire and a great guy, he will certainly hang it up when the time is right. I have a hard time believing someone of his stature will hang around for 20 more years barely being able to run, etc.

I seriously doubt that McClelland has a worse back than I do, having degenerated vertebrae from L-2 to S-1 from a serious car wreck in 1981, but I have never let it affect my timing or hustle.

After games was always a different story (one of sheer agony, usually).

UMP25 Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:19am

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Originally Posted by FredFan7
Did Mr. Poncino get injured on the field? If so, how?

I don't recall the specifics of the conversation I had where Poncino's name came up. The person with whom I was conversing didn't focus on what caused the injury; rather he had mentioned that Larry was told he'd be risking a lot if he went back. It does, however, sound like the injury was caused by something related to his head or mask getting nailed pretty good. Don't quote me on that because I don't have the exact specifics, but it sounded like this was the reason.

mrm21711 Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:21am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I seriously doubt that McClelland has a worse back than I do, having degenerated vertebrae from L-2 to S-1 from a serious car wreck in 1981, but I have never let it affect my timing or hustle.

After games was always a different story (one of sheer agony, usually).

I noticed on some plays he doesnt even take his mask off or even move.

Steven Tyler Fri Apr 18, 2008 02:28pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I seriously doubt that McClelland has a worse back than I do, having degenerated vertebrae from L-2 to S-1 from a serious car wreck in 1981, but I have never let it affect my timing or hustle.

After games was always a different story (one of sheer agony, usually).

Are you seriously saying that you're a better man than Tim McClelland? It's kind of hard to judge the man and his threshold for pain without knowing him.

lawump Fri Apr 18, 2008 07:06pm

According to the Red Sox radio broadcast team last night (4/17) John Hirshbeck had back surgery this week. I haven't heard anything about that...but the Red Sox announcers cited the Yankees/Red Sox series umpiring crew as their source. The announcers said they had gone out to dinner with both the Yankees/Red Sox crew AND the crew that was umpiring the Mets series the night before (4/16).

UMP25 Fri Apr 18, 2008 08:51pm

Where's our favorite poster here with the inevitable question of "What did the crew eat for dinner?"

BaBa Booey Fri Apr 18, 2008 09:37pm

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Originally Posted by UMP25
Where's our favorite posted here with the inevitable question of "What did the crew eat for dinner?"

be careful what you wish for....

goyanksgonj Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:57pm

Who gives a darn?

goyanksgonj Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:00am

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Originally Posted by lawump
According to the Red Sox radio broadcast team last night (4/17) John Hirshbeck had back surgery this week. I haven't heard anything about that...but the Red Sox announcers cited the Yankees/Red Sox series umpiring crew as their source. The announcers said they had gone out to dinner with both the Yankees/Red Sox crew AND the crew that was umpiring the Mets series the night before (4/16).

The announcers went out to dinner with the crews? First of all, given that they were both home consecutively, it was more than likely the same crew. Second of all, I, personally, would find that to be a conflict of interest, ESPECIALLY if either one and/or both of the game (s) had a questionable call (s).

sri8527 Sat Apr 19, 2008 06:35am

i know SDS can defend himself, but the POINT he was making, if your well enough to be on the field, then your, injury, whatever that may be should not effect your mechanics or timing.



steve

lawump Sat Apr 19, 2008 07:42am

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Originally Posted by goyanksgonj
The announcers went out to dinner with the crews? First of all, given that they were both home consecutively, it was more than likely the same crew. Second of all, I, personally, would find that to be a conflict of interest, ESPECIALLY if either one and/or both of the game (s) had a questionable call (s).

How? Now to be sure, I'm not going to say things, like, "your team's manager is an a$$" or "I blew that call" because I know they'll go and tell the team's manager that. But talking baseball is not a conflict.

Tell me how there's a conflict...in your mind...and I'll post my thoughts.

UMP25 Sat Apr 19, 2008 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by goyanksgonj
First of all, given that they were both home consecutively, it was more than likely the same crew.

That is not correct. That occurs very rarely.

goyanksgonj Tue Apr 22, 2008 05:16pm

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Originally Posted by lawump
How? Now to be sure, I'm not going to say things, like, "your team's manager is an a$$" or "I blew that call" because I know they'll go and tell the team's manager that. But talking baseball is not a conflict.

Tell me how there's a conflict...in your mind...and I'll post my thoughts.

That's why they stay together as crewmates as much as they can throughout the course of the season. They have time as a crew, before, and, I'm sure, even after, games, to go over important stuff (including just plain old talking baseball).

Otherwise, that's why they call it pillow talk, either for their crewmates or their wives and/or girlfriends.

:)


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