Runner hit by fair ball in foul terr.

[dash_riprock]

R3 leading off 3rd entirely in foul ground. F5 playing behind the bag. Batter lines one off the bag, ball bounces back and contacts R3.

I have the batter out, dead ball in FED only. Play on in other codes. Any other views?

[_Bruno_]

live ball under pro rules.

[_Bruno_]

if R3 was contacted over foul territory ! he would be out if the ball touched him in fair territory.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by _Bruno_

if R3 was contacted over foul territory ! he would be out if the ball touched him in fair territory.

Why would that make a difference? The ball is fair once it hit the bag.

Edit: I have an out in all codes.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Matt

Why would that make a difference? The ball is fair once it hit the bag.

Edit: I have an out in all codes.

OBR:

7.08 Any runner is out when --
(f) He is touched by a fair ball in fair territory . . .


NCAA

8-5 A runner is out when:
k. The runner, including a runner in contact with a base, is hit while in fair territory by a batted ball . . .


It may be a fair ball, but it isn't fair territory.

[btdt]

Why would the batter be out?

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

R3 leading off 3rd entirely in foul ground. F5 playing behind the bag. Batter lines one off the bag, ball bounces back and contacts R3.

I have the batter out, dead ball in FED only. Play on in other codes. Any other views?

Nobody is out in FED or any other rule set. In this situation I'm assuming the runner was in foul territory when he was hit. Ball is still LIVE and the play goes on.

[dash_riprock]

You would think so, but:

FED 8-4-2-k Any runner is out when he is contacted by a fair batted ball...

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

You would think so, but:

FED 8-4-2-k Any runner is out when he is contacted by a fair batted ball...

I don't have my case book with me, but this exact play is in the case book and it is NOT an out under FED rules. I think it's in the Rule 2 section...

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by bossman72

I don't have my case book with me, but this exact play is in the case book and it is NOT an out under FED rules. I think it's in the Rule 2 section...

As JM just stated, please provide a reference. I thought Dash was wrong too but I can't find anything to dispute that this is an out. I followed up with my interpreter and he tells me it's an out. The guys saying 'out' have provided a rule reference. The 'safe' guys just 'know' it to be true.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by bossman72

I don't have my case book with me, but this exact play is in the case book and it is NOT an out under FED rules. I think it's in the Rule 2 section...

This exact play is in the J/R manual. Could that be what you are thinking of?

If this play is in the NFHS Case Book, I had no luck finding it! Maybe it's there, but just not in the section you would expect it ot be.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

You would think so, but:

But nothin'. I knew it was there someplace. Thanks Bossman.

[dash_riprock]

Thanks from me too. I feel much better now.

[waltjp]

Thanks, Bossman.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

R3 leading off 3rd entirely in foul ground. F5 playing behind the bag. Batter lines one off the bag, ball bounces back and contacts R3.

I have the batter out, dead ball in FED only. Play on in other codes. Any other views?

Really...an out? How come?