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SAump Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:18pm
Participant Safety
 
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Three (3) major rules changes are in effect for the SAMSBL. First, ALL base coaches are required to wear Double-Ear Flap HELMETS at all times while in the boxes. Umpires will stop the game (but not the clock) until this rule is followed. 2nd, Collisions are judged more harshly against the participants. Some one could get ejected on every collision that occurs. The best bet is to slide or give it up. Offensive and defensive players are asked to avoid collisions. This situation puts the final decision on the umpire's shoulders. His judgment is final at that moment. If ejected, simply keep silent and leave the field of play. The 3rd rule pertains to the A/B batting rule. Each manager can use this batting order system if he chooses. However, once published in the batting order, the two players who share the batting spot cannot be substituted for throughout the game. All league members are strongly encouraged to read our rules which are on the web page.
Didn't take long to reach from MLB rule change to reach MSLB.
Will NCAA and NFHS soon follow?

GarthB Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:31pm
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Didn't take long to reach from MLB rule change to reach MSLB.
Will NCAA and NFHS soon follow?
I believe American Legion has followed suit as well.

briancurtin Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:24am
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Umpires will stop the game (but not the clock) until this rule is followed.
How many yards is the penalty for the second offence? Maybe there should be a faceoff?

ozzy6900 Thu Mar 06, 2008 08:55am
Here you go! Right off the American Legion Website.

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Memo to: Members of the National Baseball Subcommittee
Department Baseball Chairmen
From: Larry Price, Chairman of the National Baseball subcommittee
Date: February 29, 2008

Subject: Official Baseball Rule changes for 2008
Major League Baseball’s Playing Rules Committee has adopted a number of slight changes to the language of the Official Baseball Rules that will take effect in the 2008 season.

Rule 4.05 in Official Baseball rules now requires that a coach, until being passed by a batted ball, must position himself no closer to home plate than the front edge of the coach’s box and no closer to fair territory than the edge of the coach’s box closest to the field.

Major League’s General Managers also adopted a new coaches helmet rule, which mandates all coaches “on the lines” shall wear a protective helmet.

The American Legion uses Official Baseball Rules authorized by the Commissioner of Baseball; therefore American Legion coaches shall be mandated to observe the new coaching box rules as well as wearing a protective helmet. Coaches may wear a no-flap; a single flap or a double flap helmet. The type of helmet shall be a personal choice of the coach. MLB will not mandate the type of helmet nor shall The American Legion dictate the type of helmet a coach wishes to wear while in the coaching box.

These rule changed do not appear in the 2008 American Legion rules. We did not get this official language until after our 2008 rulebook was printed and distributed.

Helmet Rule Violations: Umpires are instructed not to put the ball into play and to warn the coach on wearing a protective helmet. If the coach refuses to wear a helmet he shall be ejected from the game.

Coaching Box Rule Violations: Umpires are instructed to warn the coaches on the rule. Coaches who fail to observe the rules shall be warned. Continued violation may result in the coach being ejected.

These rules are a result of a minor league baseball coach being killed in 2007. These rules are a safety rule. If coaches are confused as to what type of helmet to wear, we suggest they watch any Major League or Minor League ballgame and follow the lead of the professional coaches “on the lines”.

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Go to American Legion and click the box marked Rules and Forms then click on New Helmet Rule.

johnnyg08 Thu Mar 06, 2008 09:15am
wow

waltjp Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:59pm
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These rules are a result of a minor league baseball coach being killed in 2007. These rules are a safety rule. If coaches are confused as to what type of helmet to wear, we suggest they watch any Major League or Minor League ballgame and follow the lead of the professional coaches “on the lines”.
I don't wish to make light of this accident and we all acknowledge that there's a certain degree of risk involved when small hard objects are traveling at high rates of speed in the general vicinity of unprotected individuals but didn't the ball strike the coach in the neck? Requiring a helmet for adult coaches makes as much sense as requiring them to wear a cup.

Steven Tyler Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:23pm
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I don't wish to make light of this accident and we all acknowledge that there's a certain degree of risk involved when small hard objects are traveling at high rates of speed in the general vicinity of unprotected individuals but didn't the ball strike the coach in the neck? Requiring a helmet for adult coaches makes as much sense as requiring them to wear a cup.
It's just a damn helmet, for crying out loud. The helmets have evolved over the years to what is considered much better protection from when players were first forced to wear them. No they can't prevent every accident, but they sure aren't going to hurt either.

If you insist on plate meeting strip searchs to see if the coach is wearing a cup, that is your own personal business.

mbyron Fri Mar 07, 2008 08:05am
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Requiring a helmet for adult coaches makes as much sense as requiring them to wear a cup.
Oh great. Now you've done it. :D

jicecone Fri Mar 07, 2008 08:48am
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Oh great. Now you've done it. :D
Actually, they will look a lot better with a helmet on their head than a cup.

They used to complain about the straps blocking their vision on line drives.

johnnyg08 Fri Mar 07, 2008 09:26am
Little johnny shall also be required to wear bubble wrap upon reaching 2B to home plate. The umpire shall call time and assist with the process to keep the pace of the game going... :-)

GaryBarrentine Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:03am
It's just a damn helmet
 
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It's just a damn helmet, for crying out loud.
Why don't we just make the required uniform that of a hockey goalie for ALL personel who step on to the diamond.

Where does it end!

GaryB

Steven Tyler Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:28pm
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Why don't we just make the required uniform that of a hockey goalie for ALL personel who step on to the diamond.

Where does it end!

GaryB
Might be hard to play baseball on skates........;)

kylejt Fri Mar 07, 2008 05:03pm
I'm confused. What color flag do we throw if there's a collision?

waltjp Fri Mar 07, 2008 05:29pm
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Actually, they will look a lot better with a helmet on their head than a cup.

They used to complain about the straps blocking their vision on line drives.
I dunno. Have you seen the Nutty Buddy? :D

fitump56 Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:12pm
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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
It's just a damn helmet, for crying out loud. The helmets have evolved over the years to what is considered much better protection from when players were first forced to wear them. No they can't prevent every accident, but they sure aren't going to hurt either.
AMEN!

Grow up, Old Guard whiners. :rolleyes:

fitump56 Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:15pm
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I don't wish to make light of this accident and we all acknowledge that there's a certain degree of risk involved when small hard objects are traveling at high rates of speed in the general vicinity of unprotected individuals.....
Good for you, you obviously see the need for the helmet on coaches.....:D

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...but didn't the ball strike the coach in the neck? Requiring a helmet for adult coaches makes as much sense as requiring them to wear a cup.
sigh

SAump Sat Mar 08, 2008 01:00am
Concern for fans?
 
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Signature on the waiver here. Coaches box over there. Make sure to make any arrangements necessary to have your lifeless body hauled off the field. Not our responsibility anymore.

See how easy the blood washes off the hands of MLB?

For those of you who disagree with this one, consider the thousands of fans that sit behind the dugout in ballparks each years. Should teams provide those people with helmets, too? They're a heckuva a lot closer than Bowa, plus they can't get out of the way like a coach can. Their rights simply get waived by the tiny font on the back of their tickets.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/mlb...?urn=mlb,69358
Where can I order one of those soft-cap liners available to MLB players and umps?

johnnyg08 Sat Mar 08, 2008 01:03am
They better start putting them on golfers too...could you imagine getting hit in the side of the head by a Tiger Woods drive?? yikes, that would hurt...every spectator should wear one too.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Mar 08, 2008 09:24am
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every spectator should wear one too.
As an umpire, do you really care about specator's?:confused:

mbyron Sat Mar 08, 2008 09:28am
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As an umpire, do you really care about specator's?:confused:
No, but I do care about apostrophes. :mad:

radwaste50 Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:26am
Not sure I agree that adults cannot decide for themselves, but there are a few coaches that I will enjoy having them wear a nice hot helmet in the summer sun.

Interested Ump Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:42am
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They better start putting them on golfers too...could you imagine getting hit in the side of the head by a Tiger Woods drive?? yikes, that would hurt...
As soon as golfers have teammates who are running the holes, I am absolutely guaranteeing you that helmets will be mandatory. :D

fitump56 Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:43am
Originally Posted by johnnyg08
They better start putting them on golfers too...could you imagine getting hit in the side of the head by a Tiger Woods drive?? yikes, that would hurt...
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As soon as golfers have teammates who are running the holes, I am absolutely guaranteeing you that helmets will be mandatory. :D
ROTFLMAO!

fitump56 Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:50am
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Not sure I agree that adults cannot decide for themselves...
:eek:
They had decided by an almost 100 percentile. Why? Because it would look "odd" or it might upset the Old Guard umps (lol) or Tommy's Dad said my Dad looks st00pid...

They have spoken clearly and distinctly, no doubt whatsoever, which is exactly why the rule became mandatory instead of optional.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:14am
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No, but I do care about apostrophes. :mad:
I'm happy for you as well as your teacher's.

mbyron Sat Mar 08, 2008 01:32pm
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I'm happy for you as well as your teacher's.
No doubt you think that's clever, as if repeating an error would make it funny.

GarthB Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:14pm
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No doubt you think that's clever, as if repeating an error would make it funny.
Now then, if everytime he repeated the error, someone would hit him in the head with a hammer....hilarious.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Mar 08, 2008 06:05pm
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Now then, if everytime he repeated the error, someone would hit him in the head with a hammer....hilarious.
I agree, punctuation is important. How about spelling? I know I’ve misspelled on past posts. It’s a comfort knowing that we have people participating in this forum monitoring these very, very, very important issues. Long live the hammer!:D

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Correct mechanic is to verbalize "that's obstruction!" and don't be shy about it!
missing comma after “Verbalize”

Look for informations for equipement
Posted By mbyron

Informations? What's up with that? “Equipment” misspelled. I’m disappointed you did not catch these errors when Zorba posted.

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Be careful. While interference was most likley not really an option, by rule, obstruction may have been. "
“Likely” misspelled.

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What we got from national was that "above all, a fielder cannot block access to the bag without the ball...no exception for emminent possession or the throw taking the runner into the basepath".

Besides, the ball didn't arrive there accoring to the OP
“Eminent” misspelled. Base path should be two words. “According” misspelled.

GarthB Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:28pm
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I agree, punctuation is important. How about spelling? I know I’ve misspelled on past posts. It’s a comfort knowing that we have people participating in this forum monitoring these very, very, very important issues. Long live the hammer!:D


missing comma after “Verbalize”

Look for informations for equipement
Posted By mbyron

Informations? What's up with that? “Equipment” misspelled. I’m disappointed you did not catch these errors when Zorba posted.



“Likely” misspelled.



“Eminent” misspelled. Base path should be two words. “According” misspelled.
You obviously have me confused with someone who commented on the accuracy of your writing and making a suggestion that it might be intentional.

T'weren't me. Once again, RIF.

I just suggested how to make it funny.

"Comedy is pain plus time."

Maybe a sledge?

GarthB Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:36am
At the Washington State/Kent State series this weekend, the WSU base coaches wore helmets. The Kent State coaches did not. I inquired if it was a PAC 10 requirment and was told that it was not, WSU was doing it on their own.

BTW Mr. Byron, WSU took three of the four games, including a 21-4 shellacking of Kent State on Saturday.

mbyron Mon Mar 10, 2008 07:00am
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BTW Mr. Byron, WSU took three of the four games, including a 21-4 shellacking of Kent State on Saturday.
Congratulations.

I had our team's catcher in class last spring, and enjoyed talking baseball with him from time to time. Smart kid (F2 is always the smartest kid on the team, right?), and a good guy.

I'm glad they were playing out there. We had 14" of snow, and the campus is closed this morning for snow removal.

GarthB Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:56am
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Congratulations.

I had our team's catcher in class last spring, and enjoyed talking baseball with him from time to time. Smart kid (F2 is always the smartest kid on the team, right?), and a good guy.

I'm glad they were playing out there. We had 14" of snow, and the campus is closed this morning for snow removal.
We still have high school fields that are unplayable, but WSU, with its artificial turf and great drainage, was in excellent shape. Originally when the turf was installed they kept dirt on the mound and at home. Last year they turfed around home. When working the plate there I can leave my brush in the car.

Golden Flashes?

Publius Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:13pm
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What we got from national was that "above all, a fielder cannot block access to the bag without the ball...no exception for emminent possession or the throw taking the runner into the basepath".
“Eminent” misspelled.
ROTFL :D

Welpe Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:21pm
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Last year they turfed around home. When working the plate there I can leave my brush in the car.
The local high school built their new turf field that way. I have not had the pleasure of working a game on a field like that, it must be a strange experience.


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