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DG Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:54pm
I have 4 Honigs K91's with doeskin pads. I have taken several direct shots and never left the game or taken more than a minute to recover. Only one shot bent the frame and I put it on a table vise and bent it back and it is still in use. No concussions, no headaches.

My wife says I have CRS disease (can't remember sh*t) but I think that is more age related than shots to the mask related.

dash_riprock Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:59pm
Don't ever bend a bent mask back into shape. You will weaken it.

JJ Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:09am
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Originally Posted by dash_riprock
Don't ever bend a bent mask back into shape. You will weaken it.
...and THAT is GREAT advice. Or is that "ad-vise"? :p

JJ

kylejt Sat Feb 16, 2008 02:55am
News flash!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kylejt
Here it is, and I wonder how high it will go.

I don't particularly care them, after getting a concussion wearing one, but some gear heads will sell body organs to get one. My used one fetched $175 several years ago. I'll bet this pulls three bills plus.

I'm guessing the warranty isn't still valid.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=005

One day before the end of the auction, this guy lists another new SUL200. Talk about stupid, this joker just undercut his original mask with another of his own. What an eBay rookie move.

DG Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:49pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by dash_riprock
Don't ever bend a bent mask back into shape. You will weaken it.
The logic of this escapes me.

Steven Tyler Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by DG
The logic of this escapes me.
Ever take a nail and bend it several times and have it break into two pieces. It also weakens the weld points on the mask. If it bends once, it will bend again, only easier.

socalblue1 Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:52am
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Originally Posted by DG
The logic of this escapes me.
Mask frames are heat treated metal, designed to absorb shock and rebound. An impact with sufficient energy to bend the frame has weakened the metal. Bending it back will further weaken the bar, putting in jeopardy of failing if hit with sufficient impact again in the same area.

Think of bending an aluminum can tab back and forth. It weakens more with each bend, finally breaking. mask frames are more brittle from the heat treating.

fitump56 Mon Feb 18, 2008 02:33am
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Originally Posted by MadCityRef
Perhaps gentlemen it is not the masks but your positioning.

A full-on hit to any mask can cause a concussion. A glancing blow to a properly fitted/adjusted mask should cause it to move (spin).
Take any hit to the mask and it doesn't move, it's on too tight. The energy of the blow is being absorbed by your head, not the mask.
Point of story.

Wear a helmet.

Interested Ump Mon Feb 18, 2008 01:54pm
Originally Posted by MadCityRef
Perhaps gentlemen it is not the masks but your positioning.

A full-on hit to any mask can cause a concussion. A glancing blow to a properly fitted/adjusted mask should cause it to move (spin).
Take any hit to the mask and it doesn't move, it's on too tight. The energy of the blow is being absorbed by your head, not the mask.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fitump56
Point of story.

Wear a helmet.
I'd say that was spot on, Deej.:D

GarthB Mon Feb 18, 2008 03:35pm
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Originally Posted by kylejt
They sure looked like the one that Posada was wearing last year. The listing has expired, or I would have posted the link. I'm not sure what would make them so desirable, aside from the cool factor. Surely not 600 dollars worth of cool, but you never know. Of course the same could be said of that Douglas West Vest I sold for nearly three bills. It's like P.T. Barnham said......

I've spoken with a couple of MiLB guys who were offered the Nike Titanium for $300. So far, however, I have not spoken with anyone who purchased one.

MadCityRef Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:53pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by kylejt
One day before the end of the auction, this guy lists another new SUL200. Talk about stupid, this joker just undercut his original mask with another of his own. What an eBay rookie move.
I think this is +POS selling off its inventory. Wouldn't count on a warranty.

RobDrake Sun Feb 24, 2008 05:26am
Nike Mask
 
http://theumpirelife.com/messageboar...opic.php?t=100

BlueLawyer Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:57pm
The Holy Grail
 
I always thought it was a Carlucci cp. I am lucky enough to have one and it totally rules and has from day one. Fit me perfectly out of the box and I have taken three direct, hard shots with it that I have shaken off easily.


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