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JJ Mon Feb 04, 2008 04:45pm

MLB Rule Book
 
Does anyone know if/when/where the new MLB Rules book will be out and where it can be obtained? Thanks. Oh, if MLB Rules are available online, that may suffice.

JJ

johnnyg08 Mon Feb 04, 2008 05:13pm

mlb.com...scroll to the bottom, the rules are there in pdf form...very nice, printable format.

mikebran Tue Feb 05, 2008 03:01pm

blind man's bluff
 
rules are easy to find.. but where is this PDF?

PeteBooth Tue Feb 05, 2008 04:19pm

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
Go to the MLB home page. Down at the end of the page it will say Official Info. Click on Official Rules. The rules will come up and on the left hand side of the page (Introduction/rules 1-10). Click on those and the rules will come up in PDF format.


The only problem with PDF is that you cannot cut and past when answering a thread as one could do utilizing the old format.

Pete Booth

Rich Ives Tue Feb 05, 2008 05:03pm

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Originally Posted by PeteBooth
The only problem with PDF is that you cannot cut and paste when answering a thread as one could do utilizing the old format.

Pete Booth

You mean like this?

We recognize that many amateur and non-professional organizations play their games under
professional rules, and we are happy to make our rules available as widely as possible. It is
well to remember that specifications as to fields, equipment, etc., may be modified to meet
the needs of each group.



I do have acrobat - not just the reader.

johnnyg08 Tue Feb 05, 2008 06:56pm

Copied and pasted from the pdf format using reader. You can do it...

6.01
(a) Each player of the offensive team shall bat in the order that his name appears in his
team’s batting order.


Use the cursor/arrow button and scroll over what you're copying, then paste it in here, just like the old format.

umpjong Tue Feb 05, 2008 09:27pm

JJ there are no pictures in a rule book, stick with your comic books!!!!!

Dave Reed Wed Feb 06, 2008 01:21am

Copying and pasting using Acrobat Reader is possible, and easy.... if you have a recent version. You need at least V 7. Older versions did not allow one to copy text from PDFs.

Interested Ump Wed Feb 06, 2008 02:10am

You can print the PDF, scan it to a Word or .txt file, then easily cut-paste. By why should we have to do so? How much money does MLB make off the OBRs compared to legal counsel to keep their butts covered when their cheating superstars get caught junking drugs?

The lack of free rules to any official or fan is another bullet point in the sickness of professional baseball.

johnnyg08 Wed Feb 06, 2008 07:30am

Last time I checked I wasn't charged anything to access the rules on MLB.com...I'm pretty sure they're free.

UMP25 Thu Feb 07, 2008 09:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ
Does anyone know if/when/where the new MLB Rules book will be out and where it can be obtained? Thanks. Oh, if MLB Rules are available online, that may suffice.

JJ

John, how soon do you need it? I can send you one when I get my association's bulk order in. We order a batch each year and send a complimentary copy to each of our guys, particularly those who work mid- to upper-level ball.

UMP25 Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:08am

Updated: The books are scheduled to ship March 15th.

JJ Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:11pm

Thanks for the offer and the info - one of the guys I umped with in Venezuela asked me to send him two copies. I sent off the one copy I had that was a couple of years old, but I do want to send him new copies when I can get my hands on them. Is Triumph still the publisher?

JJ

UMP25 Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:27pm

Yes they are. The cost is $9.95 each. We get them for around $4 each. Remind me to send you one when they come out next month.

Interested Ump Thu Feb 07, 2008 01:09pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08
Last time I checked I wasn't charged anything to access the rules on MLB.com...I'm pretty sure they're free.

They are, tough on your laptop or PDA, field dirt and all. ;)

MichaelVA2000 Thu Feb 07, 2008 07:01pm

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Originally Posted by Interested Ump
They are, tough on your laptop or PDA, field dirt and all. ;)

There's this new cutting edge technology out there now called a printer. You can actually take information that's inside the computer and print it onto paper. If you get the newer printer models, you can even make several copies at a time.:rolleyes:

GarthB Thu Feb 07, 2008 07:44pm

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Originally Posted by msavakinas
edited to say... will sell copies for 5 plus s/h????

And you're planning on going to law school?

Here's a quick pre-law quiz:

What does this mean?

©2007 by the Commissioner of Baseball. All rights reserved.
No part of the Official Baseball Rules may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopy, recording or any information storage and retrieval system now known or to be invented, without permission in writing from the Office of the Commissioner of Baseball.

GarthB Thu Feb 07, 2008 09:25pm

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Originally Posted by msavakinas
I wasn't going to really sell them. I am just going to print it off and bind it for myself, which is within my rights.

My bad. I believed what you posted:

"edited to say... will sell copies for 5 plus s/h????"

I'm not a copyright attorney. I do not know what rights you have to reproduce an item that bears the warning that it may not be reproduced in any form. I'll take your word for it.

UMP25 Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:05pm

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Originally Posted by msavakinas
I just printed them (double sided) and I am going to do the binding myself tomorrow. More convenient than paying for it...

edited to say... will sell copies for 5 plus s/h????

More convenient? Hardly. We buy a batch of them to easily distribute to guys who can carry them in their bag, glove department, or other small area and easily access them. Having them as 8.5 x 11 publications bound in a folder of a larger size is nice for at-home perusal, but not in the aforementioned situations.

UMP25 Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:54pm

Cheaper? Only if you don't have to pay for all those pages of paper, or did you not factor in the cost for paper and toner/ink used? At $4.00/book, we're not spending any more money than we would be spending had we tried to print 40-50 copies from MLB.com. Add to the mix the cost of one's time to print so many copies with so many reams of paper, and the cost is actually LESS for us to buy a batch of books.

UMP25 Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:49am

What??? And waste more paper and kill more trees? ;)

Rich Ives Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:50am

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Originally Posted by msavakinas
Lol It's ok. They put it in PDF for a reason... Since they do that there is nothing prohibiting me from printing it off for personal use. If I was to bind 500 copies and sell them all for profit... That's a different story.

You may be able to print a copy for personal use but if so it isn't because they put it in PDF or because they posted it, it's because of what the copyright laws allow. Putting it in PDF or posting it doesn't change the ownership rights.

Interested Ump Fri Feb 08, 2008 01:00am

Originally Posted by Interested Ump
They are, tough on your laptop or PDA, field dirt and all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000
There's this new cutting edge technology out there now called a printer. You can actually take information that's inside the computer and print it onto paper. If you get the newer printer models, you can even make several copies at a time.:rolleyes:

:D
Why yes you can, I'll have to get me one of them newfangled thangs.

It's refreshing to see that there are some people willing to openly admit to copyright violations. I don't mean to pick on you personally, I see this all the time. It's much like going 40 in a 35, much ado about nothing, in this relative sense. Frequently violated law, reproducing the OBRs.

The violation imnsho is that there is a copyright on the Nation's Game Rules.:rolleyes:

UMP25 Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:44am

Send me the $4.00 plus the customary Shipping and Handling fee of $19.95 and it's yours. :D


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