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Rog Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:21am

As taken from eteamz:
(presumably a LL Majors game)
"I always thought that, in order to enforce 7.05(f) thru (h), the ball simply had to come to a discernable stop to "stick" in a fence, shrub, etc. etc. But I remember reading recently on this (or another) board that if the ball sticks temporarily and then falls before a fielder gets to the ball, it should not be considered "stuck" for the purpose of this rule.
So, what constitutes a "stick"?"

How would you call this; and, why - i.e what rule(s)?

Carl Childress Sat Feb 16, 2002 01:35pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Rog
As taken from eteamz:
(presumably a LL Majors game)
"I always thought that, in order to enforce 7.05(f) thru (h), the ball simply had to come to a discernable stop to "stick" in a fence, shrub, etc. etc. But I remember reading recently on this (or another) board that if the ball sticks temporarily and then falls before a fielder gets to the ball, it should not be considered "stuck" for the purpose of this rule.
So, what constitutes a "stick"?"

How would you call this; and, why - i.e what rule(s)?

Roger: I think ths caution to let a ball "wait a moment" deals with a pitch or throw lodging in the catcher's equipment other than his glove.

My motto was always: If it stops moving, it's stuck. Call "Time" immediately.

Two reasons:

1. You're always consistent: "Oh, did I wait the full five (or ten) seconds?"

2. It's easier to deal with the consequences: "Two bases from the time of the pitch, Coach."

Buckeye12 Thu Feb 21, 2002 01:34am

re
 
In the NFHS 2002 rulebook, in rule 5-1-1-f-4, it states,"(The) Ball becomes dead immediately when: a fair batted ball: goes over or through or wedges in the field fence".
The award for this call is, "Award all runners two bases from base occupied at time of pitch."
So I would call this like a ground rule double.

Carl Childress Thu Feb 21, 2002 01:55am

Re: re
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Buckeye12
In the NFHS 2002 rulebook, in rule 5-1-1-f-4, it states,"(The) Ball becomes dead immediately when: a fair batted ball: goes over or through or wedges in the field fence".
The award for this call is, "Award all runners two bases from base occupied at time of pitch."
So I would call this like a ground rule double.

Buckeye: The post was about an LL game, which uses OBR. Their rule in this instance is quite different from the FED.

ozzy6900 Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:16am

As taken from eteamz:
(presumably a LL Majors game)


My answer to this, as I posted on eteamz is:

1. How long did the ball stick in the fence?

2. How long does the fielder have to hold the ball for a catch?


Get my drift .... Stuck is Stuck! Call time and award two bases from the time of the pitch.


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