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Old Sat Jan 05, 2008, 11:01am
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Roger Clemens

Heard part of a discussion on local talk radio. One of the partcipants was a PR guy who advises "public figures" on damage control. Depending upon circumstances he advises:

1. Say nothing. If you think the furor will die down.
2. Call a Presss Conference. Danger here is that the questions are unpredictable.
3. Release info in a controlled situation.

Roger has chosen #3 using 60 Minutes. Apparently questions are submitted to Roger before hand and he either agrees to answer them or he does not. The point is Roger knows the questions before hand and knows how to respond.

It will be interesting to watch the interview.
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Old Sat Jan 05, 2008, 11:28am
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Roger has chosen #3 using 60 Minutes. Apparently questions are submitted to Roger before hand and he either agrees to answer them or he does not. The point is Roger knows the questions before hand and knows how to respond.
He won't at the Congressional hearings.
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Old Sat Jan 05, 2008, 12:48pm
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Roger has chosen #3 using 60 Minutes. Apparently questions are submitted to Roger before hand and he either agrees to answer them or he does not. The point is Roger knows the questions before hand and knows how to respond.

It will be interesting to watch the interview.
No it won't.

Wallace, an old friend of Roger's, will, at nearly 90 years of age, be pitching softballs...underhand. Even an aging pitcher will be able to hit them.

Roger, most likely, is lying, and for a "good" reason. At this point, there is nothing to his advantage in 'fesssing up. When he finally has to face the truth, he'll be as much old news as Mark McGwire with little left of his baseball days but the money he saved.

And if he thinks this "problem" will go away after his televised denials, he should call Barry Bonds.
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Old Sat Jan 05, 2008, 03:16pm
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No it won't.

Wallace, an old friend of Roger's, will, at nearly 90 years of age, be pitching softballs...underhand. Even an aging pitcher will be able to hit them...
You mean "60 Minutes" is not the paragon of unbiased investigative journalism??? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!
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Old Sat Jan 05, 2008, 03:54pm
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You mean "60 Minutes" is not the paragon of unbiased investigative journalism??? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!
Could you provide a few examples of unbiased jouralism?
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Old Sun Jan 06, 2008, 01:06am
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He won't at the Congressional hearings.
He wasn't subpoenaed, he was just asked to appear. How many people think he's really going to show up? He's got a celebrity charity golf tourney scheduled that day.

"Sorry Congress, I got a prior engagement."
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 06:38am
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He won't at the Congressional hearings.
Congressional hearings - now that's a joke! To start with, the Congress is not the Judicial System. In reality, they (the Congress) have no power to force anything on anyone. According to the Constitution, they are the Representatives and voice of the people not judges and magistrates! I don't know where this all came about (Congressional Hearings) but it is nothing but pure BS!

If there is a charge on these baseball players, then let the Judicial System handle it and tell the Congress to go back to sleep until election time! All of this "investigating" costs money -- OUR MONEY! Who really gives a hoot if Clemens used steroids, anyway? Is it going to affect your life? Why doesn't baseball just enforce it's policy 9if there even is one) as of Jan 1 2008.... "If you are caught with steroids, your are out of baseball" and be done with it all!

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Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 08:52am
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Roger, most likely, is lying...
Care to share your basis for that belief?
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 09:34am
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Care to share your basis for that belief?
I'm just guessing here. Had his best years in his late 30's onward. Pretty good indicator that more likely than not he was a user of something besides flintstone vitamins.
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Care to share your basis for that belief?
I think he's being dishonest as well. If he was having joint pain why wasn't the Lidocain injected into the joint rather than being injected into his arse? That's what's not adding up to me.



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Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 10:02am
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Care to share your basis for that belief?

He's a rat, and he got caught.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 11:08am
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Congressional hearings - now that's a joke! To start with, the Congress is not the Judicial System. In reality, they (the Congress) have no power to force anything on anyone. According to the Constitution, they are the Representatives and voice of the people not judges and magistrates! I don't know where this all came about (Congressional Hearings) but it is nothing but pure BS!
You are incorrect. Congress has the constitutional authority to compel Roger to testify if they so choose. Moreover, Congress has a lot more authority than you think. In our 3-branch government, the balance of power does tip slightly in favor of Congress, as it should.
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Congressional hearings - now that's a joke! To start with, the Congress is not the Judicial System. In reality, they (the Congress) have no power to force anything on anyone. According to the Constitution, they are the Representatives and voice of the people not judges and magistrates! I don't know where this all came about (Congressional Hearings) but it is nothing but pure BS!

If there is a charge on these baseball players, then let the Judicial System handle it and tell the Congress to go back to sleep until election time! All of this "investigating" costs money -- OUR MONEY! Who really gives a hoot if Clemens used steroids, anyway? Is it going to affect your life? Why doesn't baseball just enforce it's policy 9if there even is one) as of Jan 1 2008.... "If you are caught with steroids, your are out of baseball" and be done with it all!

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Congress can, at any time, revoke MLB's antitrust exemption. If Congress sneezes while talking about baseball, MLB catches a very bad cold.
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 11:55am
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Report: Clemens sues McNamee. Pitcher claims defamation on part of former trainer
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Old Mon Jan 07, 2008, 12:20pm
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You are incorrect. Congress has the constitutional authority to compel Roger to testify if they so choose. Moreover, Congress has a lot more authority than you think. In our 3-branch government, the balance of power does tip slightly in favor of Congress, as it should.
To start with, Congress is only supposed to call tribunal hearings inferior to the Supreme Court. It was originally supposed to be a way to acquire information. It was never supposed to be the high and mighty proceedings that we have seen since the 1950's! They were never supposed to have any "power" other that acquire information. Remember, this was before the days of the FBI, US Marshals and Police agencies. Gathering facts for a National problem in those days was very difficult. Today, the Congress chooses to "investigate" anything it pleases with no regard to the cost either monetary or other! Leave this BS to the Judicial System.
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