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Jurassic Referee Mon Nov 12, 2007 06:30pm
Story on camps.
 
Good story on camps in today's LA times:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...adlines-sports

GarthB Mon Nov 12, 2007 08:18pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Good story on camps in today's LA times:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...adlines-sports
From the article:

"They said a year in rookie ball, a year in A ball, a year in double A, five to six years in triple A. And then maybe you might get called up," says Gonzalez, whose father, also a college umpire, was Rieker's roommate at umpire school 24 years ago."

"They", whoever they are, are full of sh!t.

bobbybanaduck Mon Nov 12, 2007 08:29pm
i was thinking the same thing. there are 3 levels of A ball after rookie ball, and you gotta go through all of 'em.

BigTex Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:46pm
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Originally Posted by GarthB

"They", whoever they are, are full of sh!t.

With the last name of Gonzalez, "THEY" may not be so full of it.

bobbybanaduck Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:46pm
it's not unheard of, it's just rare. i was in the southern league for the last 6 weeks of my 3rd year. if the stars align just right it can happen, but it's not common.

bossman72 Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:19am
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Originally Posted by tkaufman
Are you still in the game. Where at? What level now? How many years have you been in the game now? I am thinking about going back to school, but I'm not sure whether my age will still be a factor. I was told that it is not as much as a factor now that they have instituted the new re-ranking policy.

From what i've heard, if you're around 27 or over, you won't seriously be considered for a minor league job.

GarthB Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:43am
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Originally Posted by bossman72
From what i've heard, if you're around 27 or over, you won't seriously be considered for a minor league job.
Perhaps the exception proves the rule, but last year a 31 year old and a 41 year old got jobs with MiLB.

blewthatone Wed Nov 14, 2007 09:57am
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Originally Posted by bossman72
From what i've heard, if you're around 27 or over, you won't seriously be considered for a minor league job.
I am not too sure about that. I was 27 when I got in, spent seven years there. I did one year at each level except two at AA and two at AAA. It is possible. I do agree however that the older the harder.

UMP25 Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:42am
There are some guys who do, indeed, take the fast track. Ted Barrett was one of my roommates at school in 1989. In 1994 he was working at Yankee Stadium on Jim Evans's crew. Not bad.

GarthB Wed Nov 14, 2007 02:47pm
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Originally Posted by UMP25
There are some guys who do, indeed, take the fast track. Ted Barrett was one of my roommates at school in 1989. In 1994 he was working at Yankee Stadium on Jim Evans's crew. Not bad.
Obviously, different scearios have played out over time for different reasons...the skill and learning curve of the umpire in question being just one of those reasons. The retirement rate at MLB, the release rate (both self imposed and otherwise) at AAA, AA, and the three A levels, leave policies and contracted staffing levels are other variables. Even changes in administrative policies over the years can make what happened in the 80's, 90's and 00's different from decade to decade.

While some umpires moved more quickly than others, generally speaking, damn few umires spend just one year moving through all the A levels and equally few spend just one year in AA ball.


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